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Bobsprit August 17th 03 04:53 PM

What a Car!!!
 
Drove the new Subaru WRX STI last night. All I can say is...WOW!!! And for that
price?!!! Amazing. Quite a bit faster than my friend's regular WRX Turbo,
especially in the 60-130MPH range. 0-60 under 5 sec and easy to do. Stage II
upgrade has it beating a new Vette....and all for under 33K. Even in stock trim
it's faster than most 100K sports cars.
Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and gasp.

RB

Horvath August 17th 03 07:22 PM

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On 17 Aug 2003 15:53:24 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

Drove the new Subaru WRX STI last night. All I can say is...


Oooh wow, a subaru. Moving up from the Hyundai?




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SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 02:09 AM

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Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and gasp.

You know nothing about cars either. The current quickest and fastest
production automobile in the world is the Saleen S7. Designed and built in the
USA.
If you think that little dorkey subcompact Subaru with a 4 cyl turbo won't
rattle in a year your pretty dumb. Anybody can put 300hp in a subcompact
cheapo and get quick times.


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Bobsprit August 18th 03 02:37 AM

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If you think that little dorkey subcompact Subaru with a 4 cyl turbo won't
rattle in a year your pretty dumb. Anybody can put 300hp in a subcompact
cheapo and get quick times.

The STI has been around for more than a year along with the WRX and build is
better than most American cars.
0-60 in a stock STI is 4.8 sec. You'd better read up on it before you make a
bigger fool of yourself!

RB

Bobsprit August 18th 03 02:39 AM

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Oooh wow, a subaru. Moving up from the Hyundai?

Yeah, a car that is also built better than Ford, GM and so on and has a
warranty to prove it. Of course even the cheap little Accent for 8K will
outlast most American cars anyway.

RB

Bobsprit August 18th 03 11:17 AM

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You said American cars
can't do anything and once again I prooved you wrong and once again your
comback is not relevant.

You proved me wrong with what? There are a few American sports cars, with poor
build quality, while Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Audi, Mazda, Acura and
just about every other car company crushes the American lines with ease.
Vette's and Mustangs crushed by a Subaru! And the Subaru is OBVIOUSLY built
better!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Scout August 18th 03 11:35 AM

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My Saturn Vue is a bit slower but my bike can do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds. Would
probably be faster, but that's as fast as I can hit 5 gears (Ok, I might
have skipped 2nd). Top speed about 135. I was too busy praying at 110 mph to
further check the speedometer.
Scout


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Drove the new Subaru WRX STI last night. All I can say is...WOW!!! And for

that
price?!!! Amazing. Quite a bit faster than my friend's regular WRX Turbo,
especially in the 60-130MPH range. 0-60 under 5 sec and easy to do. Stage

II
upgrade has it beating a new Vette....and all for under 33K. Even in stock

trim
it's faster than most 100K sports cars.
Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and gasp.

RB




SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 03:48 PM

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You proved me wrong with what? There are a few American sports cars, with
poor build quality,

I'm sorry but this is what you said:

Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and
gasp.

I posted the fact that the current quickest and fastestproduction car in the
world is the Saleen S7 which is built in the USA. You had no reply and you
shouldn't have except for the lame:
There are a few American sports cars, with poor build quality, while
Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Audi, Mazda, Acura andjust about every other
car company crushes the American lines with ease. Vette's and Mustangs crushed
by a Subaru! And the Subaru is OBVIOUSLY built better!
What kind of reply is that. Not relevevt to the facts that were posted to
bust your original comment.
LOL.......... And to say the little 100" wheelbase dorkey Subaru is
"obviously" built better is contrary to the reviews that I read which just
stated the thing was a lot of bang for the buck. They had nothing to say about
"build quality" I wouldn't pay $30k for a 100" wheelbase compact car myself
but you go right ahead. You know nothing about cars.
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Bobsprit August 18th 03 03:57 PM

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I'm sorry but this is what you said:

Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and
gasp.

Yup. And no american car doesn't rattle and gasp.

Your point?

RB

SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 04:16 PM

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Yup. And no american car doesn't rattle and gasp.

Look Boobass your trying to look hip with the trash talk that was popular back
in the late 70s. Things have changed. Latest reviews on the 2003 Lincoln LS
state that it beats the 540i in the handeling dept and my 2002 with 50k miles
doesn't rattle. To top it off I'm sure you haven't ridden in the Saleen S7 so
you can't comment on that one either. Buy the Subaru ... it fits you
perfectly.
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Bobsprit August 18th 03 04:53 PM

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And to say the little 100" wheelbase dorkey Subaru is
"obviously" built better is contrary to the reviews that I read which just
stated the thing was a lot of bang for the buck. They had nothing to say about
"build quality" I wouldn't pay $30k for a 100" wheelbase compact car myself
but you go right ahead.

I suggest you check to see how Subaru compares for build quality and longevity
against American cars. Subaru rates WAY better than your car, nearly on par
Acura and better than Toyota as of last year.
Why can't American cars do the same?

RB

Bobsprit August 18th 03 04:55 PM

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I would like to see them. I do not believe the Bugatti is
in production as of yet. First problem with your comback.

In production. Top speed is 256.

Sorry!!!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit August 18th 03 04:59 PM

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http://www.motorfestival.co.uk/lambo%20new2.htm

I can't even find a mention of the Swolleen as the "fastest car."
Please post the numbers!

RB

SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 05:35 PM

What a Car!!!
 
I can't even find a mention of the Swolleen as the "fastest car."
Please post the numbers!

Well first you have to spell it right. 0-60 3.3 sec. Top speed 220 +
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SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 05:36 PM

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In production. Top speed is 256.

Nice try. Factory guess. Post the independent or magazine review. I'll be
waiting.
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Bobsprit August 18th 03 05:50 PM

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Why can't American cars do the same?

Your living in the past.

Really? Which American car can touch the WRX (ANY version) anywhere near the
price. And don't forget the AWD.
While you're looking that up, try finding a US car that can deal with Nissan's
Z for performance and finish!

RB

Bobsprit August 18th 03 05:52 PM

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I can't even find a mention of the Swolleen as the "fastest car."
Please post the numbers!

Well first you have to spell it right. 0-60 3.3 sec. Top speed 220 +

F40 is faster at 237. Isn't the US built Mclaren doing 235?

RB

Scout August 18th 03 09:29 PM

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same here (6 cyl). I tried to get it stuck in the snow and couldn't. We had
some significant snow here this past winter (20+ inches). We put 600 miiles
/ week on it, so the 22.5 mpg. isn't too bad either..
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
I love that Saturn Vue. I got the 6 cyl. Great handling and a good turn of
acceleration as well.




Fuzzy Logic August 18th 03 11:18 PM

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[posted and mailed]

(SAIL LOCO) wrote in
:

Lord, American cars really can't do anything...except rattle and gasp.


You know nothing about cars either. The current quickest and fastest
production automobile in the world is the Saleen S7. Designed and built
in the USA.


Wrong. This is the current fastest production auto:

http://www.koenigsegg.com/index.asp


SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 11:41 PM

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Really? Which American car can touch the WRX (ANY version) anywhere near the
price. And don't forget the AWD.
While you're looking that up, try finding a US car that can deal with Nissan's
Z for performance and finish!

I don't really care about the Subaru. You brought it up to change the subject.
All it is is a little hot rod for little kids. A 4 banger putting out 300hp
won't last long. Fit and finish ... you've got to be joking. As far as I'm
concerned a Lincoln Town car is a better value for the same money as that
little POS with an overstressed 4 cyl.
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SAIL LOCO August 18th 03 11:42 PM

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F40 is faster at 237. Isn't the US built Mclaren doing 235?

No. Get a life and go away.
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Bobsprit August 18th 03 11:55 PM

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A 4 banger putting out 300hp
won't last long.

Bwahahahahahhaha!!!!
Yeah, those STI's in Europe with 200K without a turbo swap are a big problem!

RB

The_navigator© August 19th 03 01:49 AM

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"The current quickest and fastest
production automobile in the world is the Saleen S7"

Cheers MC

SAIL LOCO wrote:

hahahhaha. Nonsense

And what might you be refering to?


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Bobsprit August 19th 03 02:07 AM

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Let me help you, he means your high volume production cards are crap.

Of course. Anyone can make an ultra expensive car that performs!
Cars like the Lincoln are examples of why the Japanese/German builders continue
to smack us around.
A near 40K Lincoln LS Ultimate should not fall prey to a 22K Subaru in every
area. The Subaru even lasts longer and it's a damn 4!

RB

SAIL LOCO August 19th 03 02:16 AM

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In production. Top speed is 256.

Sorry!!!

You should be sorry. I told your stupid ass that's the factory guess. No one
has tested the car yet. The final pre production car weighed more than the
estimate. They haven't sold one yet as far as I know.
SORRY!
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SAIL LOCO August 19th 03 02:21 AM

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A near 40K Lincoln LS Ultimate should not fall prey to a 22K Subaru in every
area. The Subaru even lasts longer and it's a damn 4!

What a dumb ass. Those 2 cars are not even in the same class. Sure the toy
Subaru which weighs nothing and has 300hp will out accelerate the LS but who
cares. The 2 cars are intended for different people. Hell you can buy a cheap
Firebird that can run with the Subaru.
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SAIL LOCO August 19th 03 02:28 AM

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F40 is faster at 237. Isn't the US built Mclaren doing 235?

LOL........... I told you you were living in the past. The F40 hasn't been made
for years. The F50s 0-60 time is 3.6 and it's top speed hasn't been proven and
the McLaren will do 231 but looses to the Saleen S7 from 0-60 by a tenth.
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SAIL LOCO August 19th 03 02:29 AM

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hahahhaha. Nonsense

OOOOOOOK if you say so.


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Bobsprit August 19th 03 04:31 AM

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The F50s 0-60 time is 3.6 and it's top speed hasn't been proven and
the McLaren will do 231 but looses to the Saleen S7 from 0-60 by a tenth.

So the McLaren is faster, but the Bugatti beats them both.

RB

Bobsprit August 19th 03 04:32 AM

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Sure the toy
Subaru which weighs nothing and has 300hp will out accelerate the LS but who
cares.

IT out-EVERYTHING'S the LS.
A damn shame. Lincoln should pack it in.

RB

Bobsprit August 19th 03 04:34 AM

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Hell you can buy a cheap
Firebird that can run with the Subaru.


Yeah? Cut the HP of the WRX by 50 and the Firebird still loses because it can't
handle worth a damn. The WRX goes through the Slalom faster than a new Vette
and the Vette is no slouch...just cheaply made.

RB

Bertie the Bunyip August 19th 03 06:24 AM

What a Car!!!
 
Just Taylor wrote in
:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 04:55:25 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

(SAIL LOCO) wrote in
:

So the McLaren is faster, but the Bugatti beats them both.

This is fun since your so slow. How many grades did you repeat in
grammer school. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE BUGATTI WILL DO.


I see, and you have driven how many of these beasts?


What's next? My pee-pee is bigger than everyone's?


I think they did that last week, actually.

If it was I suppose
they wouldn't be bragging about their AMC Pacer's so much. Besides,
what is faster? A McLaren doing 65MPH or a Bugatti doing 65MPH? 55MPH
in Ohio of course.


Of course!
Citroen used to have an ad stating that their 2CV was faster than a Ferrari
(that was stuck behind it on a narrow road)


Bertie

Vito August 19th 03 01:47 PM

What a Car!!!
 
SAIL LOCO wrote:
LOL........... I told you you were living in the past.


In the mid-60s engineers 3 years out of school easily earned over
$10,000/yr. A nicely furnished apt fronting on a heated pool, with
carport, cost $85/mo utilities included, or buy a new house for a year's
pay. MGBs cost $2995, a well appointed vette $3500, XKEs or Cobras (the
real ones) $5000 and Ferraris $10 to 12,500 depending on model. Gas was
two bits a gallon and Jet Setters were whining that the "American
peasant" had had it too good for too long!!

Don't like sport cars? Fine. You could buy a Renault Dauphin, a nice
little 4dr that seated 4 in comfort and got 35MPG, for $1600 or a well
optioned US V8 for $2500. A '68 HO GTO could just pick its left front
tire off the ground headed for a 12-second 1/4 mile, and it cost under
$4000! Of course it'd only do 130 but ...

Now we got cars that go over 200, but they cost over $200,000 too, and I
don't know many "American peasants" in their mid-20s who can afford one.
Ain't progress grand?

SAIL LOCO August 19th 03 05:40 PM

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I see, and you have driven how many of these beasts?

Well Bud if I posted "nobody knows" that means neither I nor anyone else has
driven one. AND I don't think I ever suggested that I did anyway.
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Bobsprit August 19th 03 05:43 PM

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Well Bud if I posted "nobody knows" that means neither I nor anyone else has
driven one.

I've driven the late model Vette, WRX and WRX STI, NSX and quite a few late
model sports cars.
Loco has driven the Lincoln which can't match a Subaru, even though it's a
"sports sedan."

RB

Bobsprit August 19th 03 06:09 PM

What a Car!!!
 
Ask anybody over 18 which one they would rather own. The LS won't beat a 55
Chevy street rod either. It's not the point and you know it or ugh do you.

I'll take a loaded STI over the Lincoln ANYDAY. If I'm going to drive long
distance, I'll take an Audi A6, another car built better than the lincoln.
AWD cars rule.

RB

Peter J Ross August 19th 03 09:32 PM

What a Car!!!
 
On 19 Aug 2003 17:09:20 GMT, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa
removed the following benign growth from Bobsprit:

Ask anybody over 18 which one they would rather own. The LS won't beat a 55
Chevy street rod either. It's not the point and you know it or ugh do you.

I'll take a loaded STI over the Lincoln ANYDAY. If I'm going to drive long
distance, I'll take an Audi A6, another car built better than the lincoln.
AWD cars rule.


This is a sailing group. Take your off-topic cars **** elsewhere.

--
PJR :-)
mhm34x8

Scott Vernon August 20th 03 01:02 AM

What a Car!!!
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
I love that Saturn Vue.


me too, you can see the back of Uranus from there.

Scotty




Scott Vernon August 20th 03 03:52 AM

What a Car!!!
 
only if you're driving a truck.

"Just Taylor" wrote ...
55MPH in Ohio of course.


--
Taylor




Bertie the Bunyip August 20th 03 04:02 AM

What a Car!!!
 
Vito wrote in :

SAIL LOCO wrote:
LOL........... I told you you were living in the past.


In the mid-60s engineers 3 years out of school easily earned over
$10,000/yr. A nicely furnished apt fronting on a heated pool, with
carport, cost $85/mo utilities included, or buy a new house for a year's
pay. MGBs cost $2995, a well appointed vette $3500, XKEs or Cobras (the
real ones) $5000 and Ferraris $10 to 12,500 depending on model. Gas was
two bits a gallon and Jet Setters were whining that the "American
peasant" had had it too good for too long!!

Don't like sport cars? Fine. You could buy a Renault Dauphin, a nice
little 4dr that seated 4 in comfort and got 35MPG, for $1600 or a well
optioned US V8 for $2500. A '68 HO GTO could just pick its left front
tire off the ground headed for a 12-second 1/4 mile, and it cost under
$4000! Of course it'd only do 130 but ...

Now we got cars that go over 200, but they cost over $200,000 too, and I
don't know many "American peasants" in their mid-20s who can afford one.
Ain't progress grand?


there were cars thsat would do almost 200 mph back then and they cost the
rough equivelant of 200 grand back then.

BTW, I ws offered a 375 MM for a bit over 5,000 dollars once!

Bertei


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