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Thom Stewart August 16th 03 04:54 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Well got the new main up and got the shock of my life. It has a free
foot. My fault, didn't specify a shelf. First time in fifty years have
a free footed main. The battens are about 6" shorter than my UK Main but
she sets nice. Just hoisted it at the slip. I had to pick the windiest
day in weeks. The Old Man just plain ran out of gas. Did get it on and
flaked on the boom before collapsing down below. Did just beat the worst
of the wind

Maybe I'll have a test sail this week-end and get some pictures

Jon, my sailmaker is towing his Melges 24 down to the Bay Area for the
"NOAK Regatta" and for practise for the WORLDS. If you see him give a
Hail. His name is Chris. Has a crew of four. No name on the boat yet.

I haven't met him face to face yet. Just telephone and withdrawal from
my VISA account. Seem like a nice guy. Know nothing about his sailing


Simple Simon August 16th 03 01:57 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 

You know you're getting old and lubberly when . . .






Your folding propeller costs more than your mainsail.

Bwaaahahahahhahahahahha!


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Well got the new main up and got the shock of my life. It has a free
foot. My fault, didn't specify a shelf. First time in fifty years have
a free footed main. The battens are about 6" shorter than my UK Main but
she sets nice. Just hoisted it at the slip. I had to pick the windiest
day in weeks. The Old Man just plain ran out of gas. Did get it on and
flaked on the boom before collapsing down below. Did just beat the worst
of the wind

Maybe I'll have a test sail this week-end and get some pictures

Jon, my sailmaker is towing his Melges 24 down to the Bay Area for the
"NOAK Regatta" and for practise for the WORLDS. If you see him give a
Hail. His name is Chris. Has a crew of four. No name on the boat yet.

I haven't met him face to face yet. Just telephone and withdrawal from
my VISA account. Seem like a nice guy. Know nothing about his sailing




Bobsprit August 16th 03 06:44 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Well got the new main up and got the shock of my life. It has a free
foot. My fault, didn't specify a shelf.


Holy mother of god.

RB

[email protected] August 16th 03 08:02 PM

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Bobsprit wrote:
: Your folding propeller costs more than your mainsail.

Pretty dumb thing to say, bobspit. But then, I'm seeing that's the best
you're able to do.

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Thom Stewart August 17th 03 12:09 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
My Friend,

The folding Prop didn't come cheap but was only less than a third of the
new main

Also, getting use to the free footed main. I like having the draw
string on the foot of the main. A lot more shaping ease.

Don't have as much Roach as I had on the old UK Main but I have a good
stable leech, Open but stable. Very little take up necessary on the
leech string.

The full battens are a huge improvement over my old ones. The leech ends
pocket flaps are tucked into the pockets leaveing a much cleaner
leech.. Velco on the inside of pockets

Reef points and cunningham workmanship outstanding. Same for the
corners. North builds a nice sail

Ole Thom


Pony Express August 17th 03 12:33 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
The loose foot is nice in light air, especially since they tend to cut
things flatter these days.
Did North build that sail in Sri Lanka?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
My Friend,

The folding Prop didn't come cheap but was only less than a third of the
new main

Also, getting use to the free footed main. I like having the draw
string on the foot of the main. A lot more shaping ease.

Don't have as much Roach as I had on the old UK Main but I have a good
stable leech, Open but stable. Very little take up necessary on the
leech string.

The full battens are a huge improvement over my old ones. The leech ends
pocket flaps are tucked into the pockets leaveing a much cleaner
leech.. Velco on the inside of pockets

Reef points and cunningham workmanship outstanding. Same for the
corners. North builds a nice sail

Ole Thom



Simple Simon August 17th 03 12:50 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
A shelf foot is much better because it controls the
tip vortex better and has the extra added advantage
of being a good way to collect rain water while under
way.

Poor Old Thom managed to overlook an important
feature. My old worn out North main is probably
just as efficient as Thom's new one.

S.Simon


"Pony Express" wrote in message ...
The loose foot is nice in light air, especially since they tend to cut
things flatter these days.
Did North build that sail in Sri Lanka?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
My Friend,

The folding Prop didn't come cheap but was only less than a third of the
new main

Also, getting use to the free footed main. I like having the draw
string on the foot of the main. A lot more shaping ease.

Don't have as much Roach as I had on the old UK Main but I have a good
stable leech, Open but stable. Very little take up necessary on the
leech string.

The full battens are a huge improvement over my old ones. The leech ends
pocket flaps are tucked into the pockets leaveing a much cleaner
leech.. Velco on the inside of pockets

Reef points and cunningham workmanship outstanding. Same for the
corners. North builds a nice sail

Ole Thom





John Cairns August 17th 03 01:21 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
All the racers have loose footed mains, easier to take off also.
John Cairns
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Well got the new main up and got the shock of my life. It has a free
foot. My fault, didn't specify a shelf. First time in fifty years have
a free footed main. The battens are about 6" shorter than my UK Main but
she sets nice. Just hoisted it at the slip. I had to pick the windiest
day in weeks. The Old Man just plain ran out of gas. Did get it on and
flaked on the boom before collapsing down below. Did just beat the worst
of the wind

Maybe I'll have a test sail this week-end and get some pictures

Jon, my sailmaker is towing his Melges 24 down to the Bay Area for the
"NOAK Regatta" and for practise for the WORLDS. If you see him give a
Hail. His name is Chris. Has a crew of four. No name on the boat yet.

I haven't met him face to face yet. Just telephone and withdrawal from
my VISA account. Seem like a nice guy. Know nothing about his sailing




Scott Vernon August 17th 03 01:30 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Oh man, the other day in a T-storm, I had a reef in the main and the water
was just pouring out of the end of the bunched up loose sail.

Scotty

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
A shelf foot is much better because it controls the
tip vortex better and has the extra added advantage
of being a good way to collect rain water while under
way.

Poor Old Thom managed to overlook an important
feature. My old worn out North main is probably
just as efficient as Thom's new one.

S.Simon


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
The loose foot is nice in light air, especially since they tend to cut
things flatter these days.
Did North build that sail in Sri Lanka?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
My Friend,

The folding Prop didn't come cheap but was only less than a third of

the
new main

Also, getting use to the free footed main. I like having the draw
string on the foot of the main. A lot more shaping ease.

Don't have as much Roach as I had on the old UK Main but I have a good
stable leech, Open but stable. Very little take up necessary on the
leech string.

The full battens are a huge improvement over my old ones. The leech

ends
pocket flaps are tucked into the pockets leaveing a much cleaner
leech.. Velco on the inside of pockets

Reef points and cunningham workmanship outstanding. Same for the
corners. North builds a nice sail

Ole Thom







Thom Stewart August 17th 03 05:20 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Simple,

The only thing your old main is efficient at is wrapping galley wasteG

"You know you're not a sailor when your main isn't worth the price of
the Prop on your Beanie" Neal you are in that category:^)

"I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom


Thom Stewart August 17th 03 05:30 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Steve,

Don't know where it was built? I ordered from North in Seatle but t
wasn ade er


Thom Stewart August 17th 03 06:28 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat. This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom


Simple Simon August 17th 03 01:37 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat. This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom




Simple Simon August 17th 03 01:38 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
They make them in SE Asia (Taiwan, I think). Very cheap labor.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Steve,

Don't know where it was built? I ordered from North in Seatle but t
wasn ade er




Simple Simon August 17th 03 01:43 PM

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"John Cairns" wrote:
All the racers have loose footed mains, easier to take off also.
John Cairns



That proves my point. If all races have loose-footed mains
then they are not as well-suited for cruising.

You idiots with your racing mentality make me want to
puke. Automobile racers use fuel cells instead of fuel
tanks; does that mean you should have a fuel cell in
your Toyota?

Stop already with the idiotic thinking that racing crap has
any place on a cruising boat.

S.Simon




Bobsprit August 17th 03 02:50 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
You idiots with your racing mentality make me want to
puke. Automobile racers use fuel cells instead of fuel
tanks; does that mean you should have a fuel cell in
your Toyota?

Okay, raise you hand if you're sailing a Toyota.

Neal is an idiot AGAIN!

RB

Scott Vernon August 17th 03 03:04 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Where's the pics? How much was the sail?

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Don't know where it was built? I ordered from North in Seatle but t
wasn ade er




Thom Stewart August 17th 03 03:52 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Neal,

I wish you could have been here. You would have laughed your ass off. I
had to make a special trip to pick up bronze wool to clean the boom
track, so the outhaul car would travel cleanly. Removed the cunningham
hook so the sail would feed in and slide (that outhaul car hasn't been
that far up the boom in 14 years) The outhaul line is internal in the
boom and runs to the goose neck. I figured I could feed the bolt rope at
the mast and draw it home with the out haul.

With the wind piping up, I was going as fast as I could go. I took the
new main out of the bag, located the leech corner with out unrolling the
sail (so it wouldn't get blown into the water) Started to feed the foot
into the boom slot. Surprise,surprise. It wouldn't stay in the track. I
had spent over an hour on prep that wasn't necessary. By now the wind is
blowing, gangbusters.

One of my Dock buddies came aboard and helped me set the full battens.
He couldn't understand how they went. Had to explain how the pocket
closures worked. Thank the Lord he came to help. I wouldn't have made it
without him. I even mentioned your name and Bobsprit's. I gave thanks
neither one of you were here

Thought I'd give you a run down so you and RB could have your laugh

Ole Thom


John Cairns August 17th 03 04:38 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
So, what you're saying is, you like to sail as slowly as possible?
John Cairns

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
"John Cairns" wrote:
All the racers have loose footed mains, easier to take off also.
John Cairns




Stop already with the idiotic thinking that racing crap has
any place on a cruising boat.

S.Simon






Pony Express August 17th 03 05:27 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your "J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat. This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom





Simple Simon August 17th 03 05:36 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message ...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your "J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat. This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom







Scott Vernon August 17th 03 05:51 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your "J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be

that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat.

This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a

tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last

two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off

set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom









Simple Simon August 17th 03 06:03 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Ey --- Give me a break!!!

North uses I for the foot.

I knew what Old Thom meant because I am a sailor
who is familiar with any and all sailing terms. The older
terms are much more sensible than the new crap that
some lubber came up with.

S.Simon


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your "J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't be

that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your boat.

This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a

tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the last

two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack off

set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom











Pony Express August 17th 03 06:40 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
North does NOT use I for the foot. Old Thom used the proper "E".
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Ey --- Give me a break!!!

North uses I for the foot.

I knew what Old Thom meant because I am a sailor
who is familiar with any and all sailing terms. The older
terms are much more sensible than the new crap that
some lubber came up with.

S.Simon


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your

"J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the

purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't

be
that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your

boat.
This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a

tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the

last
two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack

off
set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom












Horvath August 17th 03 07:00 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 08:43:26 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

"John Cairns" wrote:
All the racers have loose footed mains, easier to take off also.
John Cairns



That proves my point. If all races have loose-footed mains
then they are not as well-suited for cruising.

You idiots with your racing mentality make me want to
puke. Automobile racers use fuel cells instead of fuel
tanks; does that mean you should have a fuel cell in
your Toyota?


Actually, YES!

Even though there is a big difference between a Formula One car and
the family Toyota, there's much less difference between the family
cruiser, and a casual cruiser/racer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Horvath August 17th 03 07:02 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:38:52 -0400, "John Cairns"
wrote this crap:

So, what you're saying is, you like to sail as slowly as possible?
John Cairns


That way he can drink more beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Scott Vernon August 17th 03 08:06 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
unless, after ''C''?

"Pony Express" wrote...
That would be "E", not "I".
--





Thom Stewart August 17th 03 11:05 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Neal,

Sail maker said shelve can be added anytime. No problem. He suggested I
sail awhile with the foot free. Said I'd probably like it. If not a
shelve can be added

Ole Thom


Simple Simon August 17th 03 11:41 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
North used 'I' as the foot in the old literature. Don't make
me scan it and post it to make you out to be more of a
fool than you already are.

S.Simon


"Pony Express" wrote in message ...
North does NOT use I for the foot. Old Thom used the proper "E".
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Ey --- Give me a break!!!

North uses I for the foot.

I knew what Old Thom meant because I am a sailor
who is familiar with any and all sailing terms. The older
terms are much more sensible than the new crap that
some lubber came up with.

S.Simon


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message
...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your

"J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the

purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't

be
that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your

boat.
This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a
tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the

last
two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack

off
set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom














Simple Simon August 17th 03 11:44 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
I'd purchase the shelf if it were mine. An end plate makes
a lot of sense on a mainsail.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

Sail maker said shelve can be added anytime. No problem. He suggested I
sail awhile with the foot free. Said I'd probably like it. If not a
shelve can be added

Ole Thom




Simple Simon August 17th 03 11:44 PM

Pneuma's New Main
 
I'd purchase the shelf if it were mine. An end plate makes
a lot of sense on a mainsail.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

Sail maker said shelve can be added anytime. No problem. He suggested I
sail awhile with the foot free. Said I'd probably like it. If not a
shelve can be added

Ole Thom




Pony Express August 18th 03 01:30 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
Oh, so North had a typo in a brochure?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
North used 'I' as the foot in the old literature. Don't make
me scan it and post it to make you out to be more of a
fool than you already are.

S.Simon


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
North does NOT use I for the foot. Old Thom used the proper "E".
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Ey --- Give me a break!!!

North uses I for the foot.

I knew what Old Thom meant because I am a sailor
who is familiar with any and all sailing terms. The older
terms are much more sensible than the new crap that
some lubber came up with.

S.Simon


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message
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I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's

your
"J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn

out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the

purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They

can't
be
that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on

your
boat.
This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would

need a
tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing

the
last
two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4"

tack
off
set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom















Horvath August 18th 03 01:30 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:05:43 -0700 (PDT), (Thom
Stewart) wrote this crap:

Neal,

Sail maker said shelve can be added anytime. No problem. He suggested I
sail awhile with the foot free. Said I'd probably like it. If not a
shelve can be added


During Bay Week, Horvath was sailing on a Kirby 25. The owner liked
racing with a loose footed main, and took the main out of the track,
but during the first race, the barrel jumped out of the track, and the
main was held down only by the outhaul.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Scott Vernon August 18th 03 02:49 AM

Pneuma's New Main
 
I gave you a break. no criticism, no name calling, just the facts, sir.

Scotty

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Ey --- Give me a break!!!

North uses I for the foot.

I knew what Old Thom meant because I am a sailor
who is familiar with any and all sailing terms. The older
terms are much more sensible than the new crap that
some lubber came up with.

S.Simon


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
Here, read this;
http://www.baconsails.com/saildimension.html


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I is the foot of the mainsail, silly.


"Pony Express" wrote in message

...
I is 10'? Is that some kind of a 3/8 fractional rig? What's your

"J"
measurement? About 3'?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


P is to long, my P is 27 feet (problem).
I is too long, my I is 10 feet (probably not a problem).

I have round slides (problem).

The tack offset is about right, boltrope for boom is right.

The main problem is it's too tall. Close but no banana!

Thanks, Thom, but it wouldn't fit and it's probably more worn out
than mine because you motor most of the time with the sail
flogging like Booby does.


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Neal,

I just thoughtof something. North is giving me 25% off the

purchase
price ($368.00) What are your dimension of your main? They can't

be
that
far off of mine. For $368 you have a huge improvement on your

boat.
This
sail is only 14 years old and in good condition but would need a

tuck
taken in it.
Spec;= E=10' 4"
P=31'
Sail Area=160 Sq Ft
Two Reefs, plus a flatting reef ( Which I have been sailing the

last
two
years
3/4" flat sail slides for mast, 3/8" bolt rope for boom. 4" tack

off
set

It's yours for $368, if you're interested

Ole Thom














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