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Bobsprit August 7th 03 01:17 PM

Lesson for Donal
 
Donal seems to be confused about gales, windy weather and heavy air.
He deems 25-30 knots not challenging to sail in.
And yet...Richard Henderson "Sailing in Windy Weather" writes:

"This classification (Beaufort) equates force 5 with "delight" and force 6 as
"delight tinged with anxiety." Force 5 through 8 or 17-40 knots is where this
book will set it's sights and on challenging conditions accross the spectrum."

There are too many instances where this book points to the "challenge"
associated with sailing a boat in conditions above 20 knots. 25-30 knots is NOT
a relaxed sail. It takes focus and skill, more so if your boat is like Scotty's
or Neals. Lighter racing hulls will be hard to control at times, to say the
least! I've been out on a J35 in 25 knots....exciting! But not easy by a
longshot.
I say...."challenging."

Donal, you know about as much about sailing as you do about choosing a good
boat!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Jonathan Ganz August 7th 03 06:18 PM

Lesson for Donal
 
It's wind and waves. Not just wind speed.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Donal seems to be confused about gales, windy weather and heavy air.
He deems 25-30 knots not challenging to sail in.
And yet...Richard Henderson "Sailing in Windy Weather" writes:

"This classification (Beaufort) equates force 5 with "delight" and force 6

as
"delight tinged with anxiety." Force 5 through 8 or 17-40 knots is where

this
book will set it's sights and on challenging conditions accross the

spectrum."

There are too many instances where this book points to the "challenge"
associated with sailing a boat in conditions above 20 knots. 25-30 knots

is NOT
a relaxed sail. It takes focus and skill, more so if your boat is like

Scotty's
or Neals. Lighter racing hulls will be hard to control at times, to say

the
least! I've been out on a J35 in 25 knots....exciting! But not easy by a
longshot.
I say...."challenging."

Donal, you know about as much about sailing as you do about choosing a

good
boat!

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Bobsprit August 7th 03 10:41 PM

Lesson for Donal
 
Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!


How dare you.

RB

Donal August 8th 03 12:02 AM

Lesson for Donal
 

The Cappys Master wrote in message
...
Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!
In fact sailing in any conditions from dead calm to storm should
always be a challenge.
It's the essence of sailing.


We know that!

However Bobby wrote:-
"Winds were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35. "


He wasn't talking about the challenge of getting the best performance out of
his old tub. He was scared of the windy conditions!!!


Would you find that 20-25kts of wind would present a "challenge" to your
sailing skills?

Regards


Donal
--




Donal August 8th 03 12:34 AM

Lesson for Donal
 

The Cappys Master wrote in message
...
Yep, considering that a forecast of 20-25 means possible gusts of up
to 35.
25 is a challenge with no reefing points, gusts of 35 very
challenging.



Uh oh!

If you know that the forecast is for 20-25 kt winds, then why don't you put
a reef in?

35 kts sustained would be challenging for beginners like Bob, or me.
However, 20-25 kts is just damn good sailing.

As it happens, we didn't put in a reef until the wind had stayed above 32
kts (apparent) for over 5 minutes.


Bob, why don't you tell us how you put a reef in under such circumstances???


Regards


Donal
--






Bobsprit August 8th 03 12:40 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Yep, considering that a forecast of 20-25 means possible gusts of up
to 35.
25 is a challenge with no reefing points, gusts of 35 very
challenging.


Could you cut it out. Take my side and then what do I have left?
Donal the chuckle head was making a toad of himself trying to insist that
strong gusts of 30-35 knots isn't a challenging. Maybe he's sailing a trawler
like Doug! Watch out for the crosswind!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit August 8th 03 12:50 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
If you know that the forecast is for 20-25 kt winds, then why don't you put
a reef in?

More boat ignorance from the guy who thinks Beneteau is an upscale boat!
The C&C 32 has a very small main. I've reefed it twice in lighter conditions.
On this particular day I opted to go full and see how she'd do on main alone.
It worked fine and we had hull speed. Later we were able to find some lulls and
fly the jib, furled down. It was a fun, if somewhat wet, sail.

RB

Jonathan Ganz August 8th 03 01:11 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
I think he's already qualified to be a gay turd.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:18:17 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

It's wind and waves. Not just wind speed.


Gee, Do ya THINK?


Oh dear.

Don't laugh at him, folks. He can easily pass the qualifying test to
become a "Gary".

Step2, Gary.


Regards



Donal
--






Jonathan Ganz August 8th 03 01:11 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Forget it Donal. Gay turds can't speaka da Enish.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:42:43 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:
He can easily pass the qualifying test to become a "Gary".

Step2, Gary.


Speak Engligh, Donal.


It would really help if you understood English, Gary. Perhaps you should
read my earlier response to Tadpole again. Try to understand it this

time.
It wasn't written in any particular code.



Regards


Donal
--






Jonathan Ganz August 8th 03 01:12 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Thank god he can't read *my* posts.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 23:00:27 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:
It would really help if you understood English, Gary. Perhaps you

should
read my earlier response to Tadpole again. Try to understand it this

time.
It wasn't written in any particular code.


I wouldn't read it if it was top posted.



You think that I top post????

Once again you prove the point that I made to Tadpole. Unfortunately,

you
really are too stupid to understand what I was saying.

Go back and try again!

BTW - I've really taken the **** out of a few people over the years.

You have the biggest bladder that I've ever come across.
Don't understand?? Read it again! If you still don't understand, then

ask
a neighbour to read it for you.

Regards


Donal
--






The_navigator© August 8th 03 02:08 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
For Booby, getting up in the morning is a challenge.

Cheers MC

The Cappys Master wrote:
Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!
In fact sailing in any conditions from dead calm to storm should
always be a challenge.
It's the essence of sailing.


On 07 Aug 2003 12:17:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Donal seems to be confused about gales, windy weather and heavy air.
He deems 25-30 knots not challenging to sail in.
And yet...Richard Henderson "Sailing in Windy Weather" writes:

"This classification (Beaufort) equates force 5 with "delight" and force 6 as
"delight tinged with anxiety." Force 5 through 8 or 17-40 knots is where this
book will set it's sights and on challenging conditions accross the spectrum."

There are too many instances where this book points to the "challenge"
associated with sailing a boat in conditions above 20 knots. 25-30 knots is NOT
a relaxed sail. It takes focus and skill, more so if your boat is like Scotty's
or Neals. Lighter racing hulls will be hard to control at times, to say the
least! I've been out on a J35 in 25 knots....exciting! But not easy by a
longshot.
I say...."challenging."

Donal, you know about as much about sailing as you do about choosing a good
boat!

Bwahahahaha!

RB





Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Scott Vernon August 8th 03 02:24 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
But, a bigger challenge for his bed at night.

:)

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
For Booby, getting up in the morning is a challenge.

Cheers MC

The Cappys Master wrote:
Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!
In fact sailing in any conditions from dead calm to storm should
always be a challenge.
It's the essence of sailing.


On 07 Aug 2003 12:17:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Donal seems to be confused about gales, windy weather and heavy air.
He deems 25-30 knots not challenging to sail in.
And yet...Richard Henderson "Sailing in Windy Weather" writes:

"This classification (Beaufort) equates force 5 with "delight" and force

6 as
"delight tinged with anxiety." Force 5 through 8 or 17-40 knots is where

this
book will set it's sights and on challenging conditions accross the

spectrum."

There are too many instances where this book points to the "challenge"
associated with sailing a boat in conditions above 20 knots. 25-30 knots

is NOT
a relaxed sail. It takes focus and skill, more so if your boat is like

Scotty's
or Neals. Lighter racing hulls will be hard to control at times, to say

the
least! I've been out on a J35 in 25 knots....exciting! But not easy by a
longshot.
I say...."challenging."

Donal, you know about as much about sailing as you do about choosing a

good
boat!

Bwahahahaha!

RB





Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Bobsprit August 8th 03 02:44 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
have my sea legs in short time

Holy hoobily doobily!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit August 8th 03 02:45 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Not very scary once you've done it a few times

Well, as was reported, I've done it twice in just a week. Let us know when you
try it, IF you EVER get to sail again!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit August 8th 03 02:45 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
For Booby, getting up in the morning is a challenge.

Finally...truth.

RB

Flying Tadpole August 8th 03 02:51 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
FOr clarity. This is not a troll.

Bobsprit wrote:

snip
The C&C 32 has a very small main. I've reefed it twice in lighter conditions.


Does this mean what it appears to, that you've put a reef in
twice?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com

Scott Vernon August 8th 03 02:55 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Challenging to post here, isn't it?


"Bobsprit" wrote

Holy hoobily doobily!





Scott Vernon August 8th 03 02:57 AM

Lesson for Donal
 

"Bobsprit" wrote i


IF you EVER get to sail again!



May be a while, hold your breath.




The_navigator© August 8th 03 05:40 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
I bet the 'girls' like the surfer look!

Cheers MC

The Cappys Master wrote:

On 07 Aug 2003 21:41:00 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!


How dare you.

RB



Easy, I'm a daring kinda guy.....


and I think Holly took the cake...all of em!
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...84590681KaiYGz


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Bertie the Bunyip August 8th 03 06:35 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in
:

Forget it Donal. Gay turds can't speaka da Enish.


snort!

A dog turd could manage it better'n you.

Bertie

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:42:43 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:
He can easily pass the qualifying test to become a "Gary".

Step2, Gary.

Speak Engligh, Donal.


It would really help if you understood English, Gary. Perhaps you
should read my earlier response to Tadpole again. Try to understand
it this

time.
It wasn't written in any particular code.



Regards


Donal
--








Bertie the Bunyip August 8th 03 06:36 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
The Cappys Master wrote in
:

On 07 Aug 2003 21:41:00 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Bubbles, you're nuts BUT I do agree!


How dare you.

RB


Easy, I'm a daring kinda guy.....


Oh yeh.

bertie

Bertie the Bunyip August 8th 03 08:31 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
The Cappys Master wrote in
:

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:34:34 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


The Cappys Master wrote in message
. ..
Yep, considering that a forecast of 20-25 means possible gusts of up
to 35.
25 is a challenge with no reefing points, gusts of 35 very
challenging.



Uh oh!

If you know that the forecast is for 20-25 kt winds, then why don't
you put a reef in?

Duh!
No reefing points!

35 kts sustained would be challenging for beginners like Bob, or me.
However, 20-25 kts is just damn good sailing.

As it happens, we didn't put in a reef until the wind had stayed above
32 kts (apparent) for over 5 minutes.


Bob, why don't you tell us how you put a reef in under such
circumstances???


Regards


Donal



mmm


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Flying Tadpole August 8th 03 09:44 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Sigh. Another no show. I'll cook a batch of donuts as comfort
food...

Flying Tadpole, doomed always to disappointment in his search for
illumination.......

Flying Tadpole wrote:

FOr clarity. This is not a troll.

Bobsprit wrote:

snip
The C&C 32 has a very small main. I've reefed it twice in lighter conditions.


Does this mean what it appears to, that you've put a reef in
twice?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com


--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com

Flying Tadpole August 8th 03 01:16 PM

Lesson for Donal
 


The Cappys Master wrote:

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:14:46 +0930, Flying Tadpole
wrote:

Sigh. Another no show. I'll cook a batch of donuts as comfort
food...

Flying Tadpole, doomed always to disappointment in his search for
illumination.......


Hey Taddy you could always install an A4 !

Illumination is virtually guaranteed!


I'll stick with my stern-slung non-exploding outboards and the
fuel stored outside the water- and vapour-tight envelope, thank
you.
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com

Bertie the Bunyip August 10th 03 01:08 AM

Lesson for Donal
 
Hello Sailor wrote in
:

On 8 Aug 2003 07:31:09 GMT, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa
removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip:

The Cappys Master wrote in
m:

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:34:34 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


The Cappys Master wrote in message
m...
Yep, considering that a forecast of 20-25 means possible gusts of up
to 35.
25 is a challenge with no reefing points, gusts of 35 very
challenging.


Uh oh!

If you know that the forecast is for 20-25 kt winds, then why don't
you put a reef in?
Duh!
No reefing points!

35 kts sustained would be challenging for beginners like Bob, or me.
However, 20-25 kts is just damn good sailing.

As it happens, we didn't put in a reef until the wind had stayed above
32 kts (apparent) for over 5 minutes.


Bob, why don't you tell us how you put a reef in under such
circumstances???


Regards


Donal


mmm

qqq


SSS


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