News://alt.sailing.asa has become a haven for the functionally
illiterate. The group harbors the likes of Jeff Morris, Shen44,
who demonstrate they have no reading comprehension. The
COLREGS are a body of work that was put into place to
attempt to control the dangers posed by motorboats. This
is clear and this is fact yet they attempt to deny it. They
attempt to make sailboats comply with a bunch of rules put
into place to control motor boats. They attempt to make
sailboats do things only motorboats can do like stop dead in
the water. They attempt to deny the fact that a cruising sailboat
like mine is always traveling slowly and at a safe speed.
They attempt to say all vessels are equal in a fog when this
is clearly not the case.

They show on this group their ignorance which continues
to cause collisions on the water. They are arrogant, they
are callous, they are ignorant and they are dangerous.

Look at accident statistics and you will see that in
99% of the cases where there is severe injury and loss
of life it is a motor vessel that is at fault. This disparity
is what the COLREGS were written to address. The
COLREGS recognize the traditional privileged status for
sailboats and it kills the motorheads to admit this fact.

Cute Neal, cute. You're wrong about one thing: I never denied that your boat always
travels at a safe speed. But how do the courts define a safe speed? From Farwell's
"Rules of the Nautical Road": "When there is little or no visibility, safe speed becomes
bare steerageway, usually not over 3 or 4 knots. In very thick weather ... vessels
should, if practical, find an anchorage."

So I could agree with you, that for "vessels like yours" travelling above a safe speed is
highly improbable.

Further: "Vessels have been held at fault in collision cases for getting underway or for
failing to come to anchor under conditions of poor visibility." Would you also claim
that you are incapable of dropping anchor, or preventing yourself form leaving your
mooring? What's next, you are exempt because you're possessed by the devil?

Your entire argument seems to be that since you is for some reason incapable of complying
with "shall reduce speed," you are exempt from all the rules.

For the rest of us, however, the rule is clear and unequivocal:

19(e) Except where it has been determined that a risk of collision
does not exist, every vessel which hears apparently forward of her
beam the fog signal of another vessel, or which cannot avoid a closequarters
situation with another vessel forward of her beam, shall
reduce her speed to the minimum at which she can be kept on
course. She shall if necessary take all her way off and, in any event,
navigate with extreme caution until danger of collision is over.

As to the rules being written to protect sailboats from powerboats, there's only a few
words (in rule 18) that give any privilege to sailboats; there are several rules (9,10)
telling sailboats to stay out of the way larger ships. Curiously, Rule 18 does not apply
in the fog; however, rules 9 and 10 still apply. It would seem that in limited
visibility, the intent of the rules is to keep sailboats out of the way of powerboats.

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"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
News://alt.sailing.asa has become a haven for the functionally
illiterate. The group harbors the likes of Jeff Morris, Shen44,
who demonstrate they have no reading comprehension. The
COLREGS are a body of work that was put into place to
attempt to control the dangers posed by motorboats. This
is clear and this is fact yet they attempt to deny it. They
attempt to make sailboats comply with a bunch of rules put
into place to control motor boats. They attempt to make
sailboats do things only motorboats can do like stop dead in
the water. They attempt to deny the fact that a cruising sailboat
like mine is always traveling slowly and at a safe speed.
They attempt to say all vessels are equal in a fog when this
is clearly not the case.

They show on this group their ignorance which continues
to cause collisions on the water. They are arrogant, they
are callous, they are ignorant and they are dangerous.

Look at accident statistics and you will see that in
99% of the cases where there is severe injury and loss
of life it is a motor vessel that is at fault. This disparity
is what the COLREGS were written to address. The
COLREGS recognize the traditional privileged status for
sailboats and it kills the motorheads to admit this fact.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
.. The
COLREGS are a body of work that was put into place to
attempt to control the dangers posed by motorboats. This
is clear and this is fact yet they attempt to deny it.

Wrong. Do a little more research and you'll find that the current COLREGS
were first developed in the 19th century, long before there were
recreational boats in any significant #'s. While the current regs may
reflect the increased #'s of pleasure craft, their base is derived from
attempts to keep commercial vessels from striking one another, especially
commercial passenger vessels. Many of the major advancements in safety at
sea took place after major disasters involving commercial passenger vessels,
such as SOLAS 1914, which was in direct respaonse to the Titanic disaster.A
quick search will show that the latest COLREGS are part of a long history of
regulatiions and revisions in response to inadequacies in those regsulations
that were revealed by disasters at sea.
John Cairns

Seems as if Neal needs some Imodium. He has diarrhea of the mouth again.

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katysails
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http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

It wouldn't be funny if it happened to you.

"DSK" wrote in message
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"katysails" wrote:
Seems as if Neal needs some Imodium. He has diarrhea of the mouth again.


Frank and Ronnie Maier wrote:
I've heard that loose vowels is common among those who wear dentures
purchased from Goodwill.

Now *that* was funny

DSK

Jeff Morris wrote:

It wouldn't be funny if it happened to you.

Since I was fortunate enough to learn good dental hygiene at an early age, I don't
need dentures.

DSK

Only when wearing a diph thong.

"Scout" wrote in message
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Is that the opposite of consonantstipation?
Scout

"Frank and Ronnie Maier" wrote
I've heard that loose vowels is common

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Is that the opposite of consonantstipation?
Scout

groan


Regards

Donal
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"Frank and Ronnie Maier" wrote
I've heard that loose vowels is common

DSK wrote:


Since I was fortunate enough to learn good dental hygiene at an early age, I don't
need dentures.

DSK

....yet.

phtt