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Frank and Ronnie Maier
 
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"Ghost" wrote:
LOA (Length Over All) is a measurement from the tip of the bow, around the
edge of the deck - as in toerail - , to the edge of the stern). LOD (Length
Over Deck) is the straight line measurement you describe.

Therefore, two 30' yachts, one with a 12' beam and the other with a 10' beam
will have different LOD's!


I hate to say this but deep breath Neal is right and you are wrong.

LOA is a straigh-line measurement, including things like bowsprits and
sugarscoop sterns. It is what it calls itself: overall length. That's
what can make it differ from LOD, which is also a straight-line
measurement but of the deck only, not including things like bowsprits.

LWL (load waterline) is also a straight-line measurement.

So, in your example, two 30' boats with different beams will have
identical measurements for LOD *and* for LOA, assuming neither has a
bowsprit or other appendage which would add to the LOA. For example,
if both were 30' LOD but one had a sugarscoop transom, that one would
have a longer LOA than the one without the sugarscoop.

Frank
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Capt. Mooron
 
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Bet that hurt!!....... right away! ;-D

CM

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katysails
 
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No he has a domestic cat, and a rack in his torture chamber.

I'm sure the ASPCA will catch up with him eventually.

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Actually, my youngest feline is lilac-point Siamese with very long bones. Stretched out
(on the rack) he's well over 3 feet.

I'm jealous. I would really like a Siamese (sealpoint). I had a queen years ago and she was the neatest cat...yarled a lot
and liked to eprch and did the leg attack thing from behind the couch...she would even walk on a leash.
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Hope you don't mind, but I put that picture in My Pictures for future use on my desktop....what a great picture!

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Default Coronado 27 faster than I thought.

she was used for club racing and won
most every race in sight)

I'd hate to see the rest of the fleet.


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Capt. Mooron
 
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Default Coronado 27 faster than I thought.

I think one of the fleet was recently used in an attempted crossing from
Cuba.

CM

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| she was used for club racing and won
| most every race in sight)
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| I'd hate to see the rest of the fleet.
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Default Flonkers nerds? Heaven forbid!

"Tom Mosher" wrote in
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in
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| This can't be the Bunyip..... I mean ... it's almost a complete
| sentence!!!
|
|
| I have my moments.
|
| BTW, why are you afraid of the "Star Trek Weenies"?

Oh boy.... be Afraid... Be Very Afraid.... have you ever seen one in
real life?

CM


They are quite frightening. They had a big Star Trek convention here
in Tulsa about a month ago. Thousands upon thousands of Star Trek
Weenies.


He seems to think the flonkers are trekkies..

Bwawhahwhahwhahhwa!

Bertie
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mimus wrote in
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:19:43 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Tom Mosher" wrote in
. com:

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in
| :
|
| This can't be the Bunyip..... I mean ... it's almost a complete
| sentence!!!
|
| I have my moments.
|
| BTW, why are you afraid of the "Star Trek Weenies"?

Oh boy.... be Afraid... Be Very Afraid.... have you ever seen one in
real life?

They are quite frightening. They had a big Star Trek convention here
in Tulsa about a month ago. Thousands upon thousands of Star Trek
Weenies.


He seems to think the flonkers are trekkies..

Bwawhahwhahwhahhwa!

Bertie


It's a cover.

Shh, i know that, they dont.


Bertie
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 03:19:43 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Tom Mosher" wrote in
om:

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in
| :
|
| This can't be the Bunyip..... I mean ... it's almost a complete
| sentence!!!
|
| I have my moments.
|
| BTW, why are you afraid of the "Star Trek Weenies"?

Oh boy.... be Afraid... Be Very Afraid.... have you ever seen one in
real life?


They are quite frightening. They had a big Star Trek convention here
in Tulsa about a month ago. Thousands upon thousands of Star Trek
Weenies.


He seems to think the flonkers are trekkies..

Bwawhahwhahwhahhwa!

Bertie


It's a cover.

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new entity has come into being--the system itself.
No matter what the "goal" of the system, it
immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that
is, to act according to the general laws that govern
the operation of all systems. Now the system itself
has to be dealt with.

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