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Capt. Mooron July 23rd 03 06:51 PM

French Rig
 
I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been in
the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French Rigged"
system.
It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling headsails...
no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?

CM





Jeff Morris July 23rd 03 06:55 PM

French Rig
 
I've heard of the twin headsail with a midship mast, but always with a main. Even a
Prout, with the mast just forward of the cockpit carries a main. Of course, on a 20 foot
boat, that would allow about 8 foot boom.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been in
the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French Rigged"
system.
It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling headsails...
no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?

CM







Simple Simon July 23rd 03 07:44 PM

French Rig
 
Leave it the French to rely on two inefficient and
trouble-prone sails. Just try to heave-to with
such an ignorant rig. Poor choice of boat as well.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been in
the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French Rigged"
system.
It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling headsails...
no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?

CM







Capt. Mooron July 23rd 03 08:32 PM

French Rig
 
Here Jeff... I found a reference to it.... scroll down to the photos and
newspaper clips. The story seems different to what I have heard.

http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/photos.html


CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
| I've heard of the twin headsail with a midship mast, but always with a
main. Even a
| Prout, with the mast just forward of the cockpit carries a main. Of
course, on a 20 foot
| boat, that would allow about 8 foot boom.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been
in
| the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
| This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French
Rigged"
| system.
| It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling
headsails...
| no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
| experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
|
|



Frank and Ronnie Maier July 23rd 03 10:36 PM

French Rig
 
"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:
I've heard of the twin headsail with a midship mast, but always with a main. Even a
Prout, with the mast just forward of the cockpit carries a main. Of course, on a 20 foot
boat, that would allow about 8 foot boom.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote...
I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been in
the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French Rigged"
system.
It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling headsails...
no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?


I remember about 20~25 years ago, Garry Hoyt designed what he called a
"delta" rig. Mast was father aft than you describe (rear of
cockpit)with this rig and there were two roller-furling sails forward,
cutter-style. It also featured one of his gun-mount spinnakers.

I suspect it was a real speedster off the wind. Don't think it ever
went into production.

Frank

Capt. Mooron July 23rd 03 11:39 PM

French Rig
 
Check it out for yourself..... scroll down you can't miss it.

http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/photos.html

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Leave it the French to rely on two inefficient and
| trouble-prone sails. Just try to heave-to with
| such an ignorant rig. Poor choice of boat as well.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| I was at the DYC yesterday and saw a Nordica 20 that had supposedly been
in
| the South Pacific for 9 years before being sailed to Halifax via Panama.
| This is the strangest rig I have ever seen. It was called a "French
Rigged"
| system.
| It has a mast placed just aft of amidships and 2 roller furling
headsails...
| no boom, no mainsail. Apparently it sails... does anyone have any
| experience with this type of set-up? Has anyone else ever heard of it?
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
|
|



Frank and Ronnie Maier July 24th 03 03:08 AM

French Rig
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:
Check it out for yourself..... scroll down you can't miss it.

http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/photos.html


Yep, looks pretty much like Hoyt's "delta" rig (Delta 26), except
Hoyt's hull was a modern, efficient underbody with a fin and without a
bowsprit. Plus, like I said, Hoyt also had one of his gun-mount
spinnakers on his design.

Frank

The_navigator© July 24th 03 07:08 AM

French Rig
 
Why? Headsails are very efficient up wind sails...

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
When I first saw it I thought it would never go upwind.... heck I thought
it had yet to be tried.. then I heard it had been sailed from the Pacific to
Halifax.



The_navigator© July 24th 03 11:40 PM

French Rig
 
Are you saying you think sailing under mainsail alone is a good way to
sail to windward?

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
So you concur with Bob's technique of sailing with only the Genoa and
leaving the main secure and wrapped in it's cover?

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| Why? Headsails are very efficient up wind sails...
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| When I first saw it I thought it would never go upwind.... heck I
thought
| it had yet to be tried.. then I heard it had been sailed from the
Pacific to
| Halifax.
|





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