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CANDChelp July 23rd 03 03:01 PM

Value of Toys!
 

Top items aboard Alien...not all sailing related....all new to us!

12 Volt Fridge. Simply fantastic!!! No more buying ice for day trips and
overnighters. The thing makes ice FAST and gets everything cold. We bought some
tupperware so meats can stay aboard.

Self Tailing Winches: Everyone loves em'! I can trim one handed from the wheel
and it's far easier on the girls. The winches are large, which doesn't hurt! 8
winches, 7 are self tailing!

Dinette: What a great idea! 4 people can sit and eat without blocking the whole
cabin. The whole boat seems bigger inside!

Electric Head: I had originally planned to remove it, but damn it's great. Just
press the button and woooosh! The opening vent hatch above the head is a great
idea!

Nav Station: A sitdown nav station...and it's comfortable, even for writing!

Hot water: H/C pressure water! Coolness!

Radar: Well, we're still learning about it, but it's fun!

MORE TO COME!!!

Capt RB


SAIL LOCO July 23rd 03 03:25 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Top items aboard Alien...not all sailing related....all new to us!

I guess that means they qualify as "hi tech" or "tricked out"
LOL..........

Personally I'd rather have the "top" items on my boat be sailing related.




S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SkitchNYC July 23rd 03 03:30 PM

Value of Toys!
 
"Value", eh? What, no watermaker?

Marc July 23rd 03 04:01 PM

Value of Toys!
 
glad to see you are enjoying an 80's era boat. Just imagine what lies
in store for you in 2020, when you step up to a 2000.

On 23 Jul 2003 14:01:43 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote:


Top items aboard Alien...not all sailing related....all new to us!

12 Volt Fridge. Simply fantastic!!! No more buying ice for day trips and
overnighters. The thing makes ice FAST and gets everything cold. We bought some
tupperware so meats can stay aboard.

Self Tailing Winches: Everyone loves em'! I can trim one handed from the wheel
and it's far easier on the girls. The winches are large, which doesn't hurt! 8
winches, 7 are self tailing!

Dinette: What a great idea! 4 people can sit and eat without blocking the whole
cabin. The whole boat seems bigger inside!

Electric Head: I had originally planned to remove it, but damn it's great. Just
press the button and woooosh! The opening vent hatch above the head is a great
idea!

Nav Station: A sitdown nav station...and it's comfortable, even for writing!

Hot water: H/C pressure water! Coolness!

Radar: Well, we're still learning about it, but it's fun!

MORE TO COME!!!

Capt RB



CANDChelp July 23rd 03 04:45 PM

Value of Toys!
 
glad to see you are enjoying an 80's era boat. Just imagine what lies
in store for you in 2020, when you step up to a 2000.

LOL! We're catching up. In a few years we plan to own a late 80's or even 1990
C&C 34+ or XL. The 110 is seeming to be too poor a value by comparison, but
we'll see.

RB

Jonathan Ganz July 23rd 03 05:59 PM

Value of Toys!
 
It's a toy boat. It doesn't sail.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Top items aboard Alien...not all sailing related....all new to us!

I guess that means they qualify as "hi tech" or "tricked out"
LOL..........

Personally I'd rather have the "top" items on my boat be sailing

related.




S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




katysails July 24th 03 02:06 AM

Value of Toys!
 
Electric Head: We had one on the 27'...they are a real drain on the battery so only flush when using the engine....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Jeff Morris July 24th 03 02:44 AM

Value of Toys!
 
How much of a drain? My electric Lavac uses about 3 Amp-minutes for a long flush - that's
one Amp-hour for 20 flushes.

However, there are times that we don't want to fill the holding tank too quickly. Then we
follow the adage "If its yellow, let it mellow; if its brown, flush it down."

Maybe I'll use that as my sig when I converse with Peggie ...

-jeff
"If its yellow, let it mellow; if its brown, flush it down."

or maybe not.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Electric Head: We had one on the 27'...they are a real drain on the battery so only

flush when using the engine....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





The_navigator© July 24th 03 03:18 AM

Value of Toys!
 
And how often is that...

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:
Electric Head: We had one on the 27'...they are a real drain on the battery so only flush when using the engine....



SAIL LOCO July 24th 03 03:49 AM

Value of Toys!
 
Electric Head: We had one on the 27'...they are a real drain on the battery
so only flush when using the engine....

No problem for the Boobster.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

katysails July 24th 03 04:37 AM

Value of Toys!
 
Average women - yes.

And men....if less, you'dd better drink more. If more, you'd better get your glucose tested.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



CANDChelp July 24th 03 11:20 AM

Value of Toys!
 
Katy, the electric head requires two flushes which last less than 5 seconds
each. We've been out sailing all day, used the head, 12v fridge, watched TV at
anchor and used lights. Next morning the battery monitor shows a drain, but
nothing close to preventing an engine start.

RB

Jeff Morris July 24th 03 11:36 AM

Value of Toys!
 
What??? You're using the house bank to start the engine? Do you have one bank, or is the switch on
"BOTH"? You have a lot to learn if you want to do two days in a row!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Katy, the electric head requires two flushes which last less than 5 seconds
each. We've been out sailing all day, used the head, 12v fridge, watched TV at
anchor and used lights. Next morning the battery monitor shows a drain, but
nothing close to preventing an engine start.

RB




Horvath July 24th 03 12:01 PM

Value of Toys!
 
On 23 Jul 2003 14:01:43 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote this
crap:


Top items aboard Alien...not all sailing related....all new to us!

12 Volt Fridge. Simply fantastic!!! No more buying ice for day trips and
overnighters. The thing makes ice FAST and gets everything cold. We bought some
tupperware so meats can stay aboard.

Self Tailing Winches: Everyone loves em'! I can trim one handed from the wheel
and it's far easier on the girls. The winches are large, which doesn't hurt! 8
winches, 7 are self tailing!

Dinette: What a great idea! 4 people can sit and eat without blocking the whole
cabin. The whole boat seems bigger inside!

Electric Head: I had originally planned to remove it, but damn it's great. Just
press the button and woooosh! The opening vent hatch above the head is a great
idea!

Nav Station: A sitdown nav station...and it's comfortable, even for writing!

Hot water: H/C pressure water! Coolness!

Radar: Well, we're still learning about it, but it's fun!

MORE TO COME!!!

Capt RB


Welcome to the real world.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Horvath July 24th 03 12:03 PM

Value of Toys!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:44:28 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote this crap:

How much of a drain? My electric Lavac uses about 3 Amp-minutes for a long flush - that's
one Amp-hour for 20 flushes.

However, there are times that we don't want to fill the holding tank too quickly. Then we
follow the adage "If its yellow, let it mellow; if its brown, flush it down."


Real men don't use the head. That's what the swim platform is for.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

CANDChelp July 24th 03 12:11 PM

Value of Toys!
 
What??? You're using the house bank to start the engine? Do you have one
bank, or is the switch on
"BOTH"? You have a lot to learn if you want to do two days in a row!

Three way system, with 3 batteries now installed (two grp. 27, one 24).
Batteries are truly isolated (Not just the switch) and we have a 3rd group 24
for backup which is also isolated. There is a small 6 amp seperate charger
installed for that one now. The Charles charger is a 50 amp for the mains.

RB

Jeff Morris July 24th 03 12:34 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Then why did you say the fridge and TV didn't drain enough to affect starting? Sounds
like you're making things up again.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
What??? You're using the house bank to start the engine? Do you have one
bank, or is the switch on
"BOTH"? You have a lot to learn if you want to do two days in a row!

Three way system, with 3 batteries now installed (two grp. 27, one 24).
Batteries are truly isolated (Not just the switch) and we have a 3rd group 24
for backup which is also isolated. There is a small 6 amp seperate charger
installed for that one now. The Charles charger is a 50 amp for the mains.

RB




CANDChelp July 24th 03 12:43 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Then why did you say the fridge and TV didn't drain enough to affect starting?
Sounds
like you're making things up again.

Because we have left the switch set for both by mistake. Never made a lick of
difference.
Sorry! You lose again!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

CANDChelp July 24th 03 12:47 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Then why did you say the fridge and TV didn't drain enough to affect
starting?

I said that the fridge, TV, lights and head didn't cause a starting worry.
Can't you get ANYTHING right or is warping the truth your hobby?

Sheesh.

RB

Jeff Morris July 24th 03 01:03 PM

Value of Toys!
 
You said "Next morning the battery monitor shows a drain, but nothing close to preventing
an engine start" implying that if there had been a larger drain, it would have affected
engine start.

Then you claimed the batteries were isolated. Then you said you had the switch on BOTH.
Then you claim it doesn't make any difference. It sounds like you're very confused.

I like that new twist - the confessed pathological liar accusing others of "warping the
truth." Good one.

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Then why did you say the fridge and TV didn't drain enough to affect
starting?

I said that the fridge, TV, lights and head didn't cause a starting worry.
Can't you get ANYTHING right or is warping the truth your hobby?

Sheesh.

RB




CANDChelp July 24th 03 01:14 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Then you claimed the batteries were isolated. Then you said you had the switch
on BOTH.
Then you claim it doesn't make any difference. It sounds like you're very
confused.

More lies. I said it didn't make a lick of difference for the overnighter.
Can't you remember whats been said?

RB

CANDChelp July 24th 03 01:15 PM

Value of Toys!
 
I like that new twist - the confessed pathological liar accusing others of
"warping the
truth." Good one.

But you keep lying constantly. You even said you heard Dennis Connor of ESPN 2.

Lies and more lies.

RB

CANDChelp July 24th 03 01:16 PM

Value of Toys!
 
In the first post I suggested you left it on BOTH, but you went into a rant on
how that
batteries were "truly isolated." Looks like you're the one busted.

Maybe you can explain how this "busts" me, Jeff??? Where is the falacy in my
statement?
You've already lied...and this makes two times!

RB

CANDChelp July 24th 03 02:01 PM

Value of Toys!
 
A normal person might have responded to the first post with "Yes, I left it on
BOTH, I'll
never do that again!" But you're not a normal person, are you?

Another lie!
I already posted that it had been "left on both by mistake."
Three lies by Jeff and counting...and it's just 9:00 am!

RB

Simple Simon July 24th 03 02:08 PM

Value of Toys!
 
If more a man had better cut his beer consumption down to one case
a day instead of two cases.


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Average women - yes.

And men....if less, you'dd better drink more. If more, you'd better get your glucose tested.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Capt. Mooron July 24th 03 02:19 PM

Value of Toys!
 

"Horvath" wrote in message

| Real men don't use the head. That's what the swim platform is for.


I thought that was where you hooked up to the slimy mooring ball??

CM



Jonathan Ganz July 24th 03 03:16 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Maybe he'll fall off the boat and save himself from the slime.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Horvath" wrote in message

| Real men don't use the head. That's what the swim platform is for.


I thought that was where you hooked up to the slimy mooring ball??

CM





Capt. Mooron July 24th 03 03:20 PM

Value of Toys!
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| If more a man had better cut his beer consumption down to one case
| a day instead of two cases.

Friggin KILL JOY!

CM



Donal July 24th 03 03:56 PM

Value of Toys!
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
...

Real men don't use the head. That's what the swim platform is for.


Don't leave it in the platform, Horvath!

You could get pooped by a big wave on a downwind run!


Regards


Donal
--



CANDChelp July 24th 03 05:50 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Actually, when I suggested that you left the switch on BOTH you came back with
the claim
that your batteries were isolated.

Good lord...what a bold faced lie!

That's 4.

RB

Jeff Morris July 24th 03 06:06 PM

Value of Toys!
 
my post:
What??? You're using the house bank to start the engine? Do you have one
bank, or is the switch on
"BOTH"? You have a lot to learn if you want to do two days in a row!

your response:
Three way system, with 3 batteries now installed (two grp. 27, one 24).
Batteries are truly isolated (Not just the switch) and we have a 3rd group 24
for backup which is also isolated. There is a small 6 amp seperate charger
installed for that one now. The Charles charger is a 50 amp for the mains.


you're reduced to babbling - you're just a pathological liar, You should seek help,
really.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Actually, when I suggested that you left the switch on BOTH you came back with
the claim
that your batteries were isolated.

Good lord...what a bold faced lie!

That's 4.

RB




CANDChelp July 24th 03 06:28 PM

Value of Toys!
 
you're reduced to babbling - you're just a pathological liar, You should seek
help,
really.

Your 5th lie.
I responded to your troll with facts. No you've been reduced to name calling. I
guess it's the best you can do.
My orginal post said that the electric head and other items presented no
serious load for an overnighter. You've had nothing of value to add since then.
And that's a fact.

RB

CANDChelp July 24th 03 07:08 PM

Value of Toys!
 
Now you're claiming I made up the post you just made???

You claimed that I didn't indicate leaving the switch to both. When I proved
that you lied, you then desperatly claimed that I made the post too late!!! To
late for what, you kook?

Bwahaahahaahahaha!

RB

SkitchNYC July 24th 03 07:14 PM

Value of Toys!
 

Now you're claiming I made up the post you just made??? Show me one lie I
made.


He's now lying about other people lying? Pretty soon he'll have come full
circle and start telling the truth.

CANDChelp July 24th 03 08:53 PM

Value of Toys!
 
I don't care - I'm stuck at home with a sick kid

If you had stated this to begin with, I would have been "less anoying."
Hope the kid feels better. I'm also home sick.

RB

Jeff Morris July 24th 03 09:04 PM

Value of Toys!
 
And I'm headed to the dentist.

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
I don't care - I'm stuck at home with a sick kid

If you had stated this to begin with, I would have been "less anoying."
Hope the kid feels better. I'm also home sick.

RB




felton July 24th 03 09:17 PM

Value of Toys!
 
On 24 Jul 2003 19:53:46 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote:

I don't care - I'm stuck at home with a sick kid

If you had stated this to begin with, I would have been "less anoying."
Hope the kid feels better. I'm also home sick.

RB


You didn't take out any life insurance lately, did you? A wife with a
nursing background and access to pharmaceuticals would make me
nervous:)

CANDChelp July 24th 03 11:03 PM

Value of Toys!
 
And I'm headed to the dentist.


I fear the dentist more than sharks. And I have pretty strong teeth.


RB

The_navigator© July 24th 03 11:30 PM

Value of Toys!
 
You don't have separate batteries???????


Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:
Katy, the electric head requires two flushes which last less than 5 seconds
each. We've been out sailing all day, used the head, 12v fridge, watched TV at
anchor and used lights. Next morning the battery monitor shows a drain, but
nothing close to preventing an engine start.

RB



CANDChelp July 25th 03 12:38 AM

Value of Toys!
 
Ah I see, you admit incomepetance and he loses???? Planet Booby is wierd!

Exactly. I think you lost sight of the original thread. Tunnel vision on the
part of most people here generally leaves me the victor.

RB


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