flukey winds
 

The other night, NOAA was predicting 'light & variable winds'. When I
anchored it was blowing (barely) E. by the time I got the grill going it
was NE. Till I finished my steak it was N. wind. By dessert it was Westerly.
It went like that all night, every time I woke to check I was pointed
different. The wind was light enough that the anchor (Danforth, 15' 3/8''
chain) didn't drag.
How would you anchor in this?


--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

flukey winds
 

Some folks claim two anchors at 45 degrees ... but I firmly believe one
anchor with sufficient rode and scope is the best method. Just the way you
did it.

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| The other night, NOAA was predicting 'light & variable winds'. When I
| anchored it was blowing (barely) E. by the time I got the grill going it
| was NE. Till I finished my steak it was N. wind. By dessert it was
Westerly.
| It went like that all night, every time I woke to check I was pointed
| different. The wind was light enough that the anchor (Danforth, 15' 3/8''
| chain) didn't drag.
| How would you anchor in this?
|
|
| --
| Scotty
| S/V Lisa Marie
| Balt. MD USA
|
|

flukey winds
 

The wind was light enough that the anchor (Danforth, 15' 3/8''
| chain) didn't drag.
| How would you anchor in this?

Holy halibut.

RB

flukey winds
 

If the wind is really light, you're probably just sitting to the anchor chain. Before I
switched to the "anchor smarter, not heavier" philosophy, I used 90 feet of chain; it took
a significant wind to stretch that out. A problem with this is that everyone else would
move 150 feet with a wind shift, while we moved 20 feet.

In the Chesapeake soft mud is the typical bottom, and the shores are relatively benign, so
the Danforth is probably the best anchor. But in a harsher environment I wouldn't trust
the Danforth to handle major shifts. I've had too many occurrences of a Danforth or
Fortress totally releasing and failing to reset. I use a Delta, with a Fortress as a
lunch hook or second anchor.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
The other night, NOAA was predicting 'light & variable winds'. When I
anchored it was blowing (barely) E. by the time I got the grill going it
was NE. Till I finished my steak it was N. wind. By dessert it was Westerly.
It went like that all night, every time I woke to check I was pointed
different. The wind was light enough that the anchor (Danforth, 15' 3/8''
chain) didn't drag.
How would you anchor in this?


--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

flukey winds
 

If the wind is really light, you're probably just sitting to the anchor chain.
Before I
switched to the "anchor smarter, not heavier" philosophy


Great ceasar's Ghost.

RB

flukey winds
 

If you have to ask you probably won't take good advice
anyway.

1) there is NO substitute for weight when it comes to anchoring
2) combination rodes consisting of three-strand nylon and chain are
the best choice.
3) two anchors placed so they pull against each other are always better
than one.
4) one anchor in light and fluky winds especially if there are currents
can and often do 'trip out' and don't reset because the chain is
wrapped around the shank or crown.
5) if one wishes to have a good night's sleep in the event of a squall
or frontal passage, two anchors set pulling against each other is
the only way to ensure it.
6) One should always consider that conditions change and one should
anchor for the maximum likely conditions of wind and current.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
OK, so what's your advice? Chrome his anchor?



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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If the wind is really light, you're probably just sitting to the anchor chain.
Before I
switched to the "anchor smarter, not heavier" philosophy


Great ceasar's Ghost.

RB

flukey winds
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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If you have to ask you probably won't take good advice
anyway.


I don't have to ask, and I probably wouldn't take RB's advice. Your's, as usual, is a bit
flawed.

1) there is NO substitute for weight when it comes to anchoring

Sure there is. Anchors have evolved considerably from rocks tied to vines. Might I
remind you that the Danforth anchors you seem to favor are called "lightweight" anchors.
Also, using two lighter anchors is not the "heavier is better" technique, that would
advise using a single large CQR and a heavy chain.

2) combination rodes consisting of three-strand nylon and chain are
the best choice.

I agree - that's why I cut my 90 foot chain rode in half to make two chain-nylon rodes.
This also is part of the "anchor smarter" approach.

3) two anchors placed so they pull against each other are always better
than one.

I often use two, but they don't "pull against each other." Usually they are placed the
45 degree double anchor configuration, where they share the load and limit the swing.
Sometimes I use a Bahamian Moor, up current and down current, where only one is under
tension at any time........

4) one anchor in light and fluky winds especially if there are currents
can and often do 'trip out' and don't reset because the chain is
wrapped around the shank or crown.

True for many bottoms, but those that anchor in the soft mud of the Chesapeake say this
doesn't happen.


5) if one wishes to have a good night's sleep in the event of a squall
or frontal passage, two anchors set pulling against each other is
the only way to ensure it.

OK - but what's this "pulling against" thing you have?

6) One should always consider that conditions change and one should
anchor for the maximum likely conditions of wind and current.


Duh.

flukey winds
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
If you have to ask you probably won't take good advice
anyway.

1) there is NO substitute for weight when it comes to anchoring

Total BS. The appropriate anchor and techique is the no-substitute
option.

2) combination rodes consisting of three-strand nylon and chain are
the best choice.

Depends on the length of chain for the conditions.

3) two anchors placed so they pull against each other are always better
than one.

Huh? Like 180 degrees??

4) one anchor in light and fluky winds especially if there are currents
can and often do 'trip out' and don't reset because the chain is
wrapped around the shank or crown.

In light and fluky winds, one anchor is probably fine unless the
bottom warrants something more.

5) if one wishes to have a good night's sleep in the event of a squall
or frontal passage, two anchors set pulling against each other is
the only way to ensure it.

Again... 180 degrees?? Total BS.

6) One should always consider that conditions change and one should
anchor for the maximum likely conditions of wind and current.

This is Horey's theory. Let's see, I'm on a lake with no water movement
unless they open up the dam. Ok, I guess I have to plan for that, so what
size anchor do I need?????


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
OK, so what's your advice? Chrome his anchor?



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
If the wind is really light, you're probably just sitting to the
anchor chain.
Before I
switched to the "anchor smarter, not heavier" philosophy


Great ceasar's Ghost.

RB

flukey winds
 

Also, using two lighter anchors is not the "heavier is better" technique, that
would
advise using a single large CQR and a heavy chain.

Please indicate a situation where a lightweight danforth would do better
holding than a heavier danforth.

RB

flukey winds
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Also, using two lighter anchors is not the "heavier is better" technique, that
would
advise using a single large CQR and a heavy chain.

Please indicate a situation where a lightweight danforth would do better
holding than a heavier danforth.

RB