Most
people grow out of that by age 8, or they go into politics.

People don't joke after age 8...or jokes based on lies aren't funny, according
to Jeff.
Well, I'm laughing at Jeff!!!

Hahahahahahahaha! Idiot!

RB

Jax never produced a photo or confirmation he owned a boat.... at least to
the group. Odd since he wasn't shy about posing for the camera.

Jax owned a rather tired looking, but serviceable Irwin 32, which he kept at
City Island. He was nothing like what he presented here.

RB

And you're claiming my comment about the wing mast wasn't a joke? I can't believe you're
so dumb as to buy that!! What a putz!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Most
people grow out of that by age 8, or they go into politics.

People don't joke after age 8...or jokes based on lies aren't funny, according
to Jeff.
Well, I'm laughing at Jeff!!!

Hahahahahahahaha! Idiot!

RB

Include a clip of you driving - we'll be able to see who does better.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
I ask that you confirm your claim with a video clip of Alien
going to weather, under canvas, the helm free and auto pilot removed, no key
in the ignition and the lever in neutral.... with nobody at the helm....
for even 30 seconds.

Fun idea! I will make a quicktime file and send to anyone who'd like to see it.
How's that?
As usual, while people like Skitch and Loco make claims, I'll provide proof.

RB

I'm not confused. I didn't see him on ESPN, and for all I know he was never on the show.
With anyone else I'd say I'll take your word for it.

But he did have a boat that was possibly capable of going upwind under bare poles.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
And you're claiming my comment about the wing mast wasn't a joke?

Dennis Connor was on ESPN2 two weeks ago, talking about racing and changes in
technology. He spoke of the "wing" system, but not about going upwind under
bare poles.
What exactly is confusing you, my poor, poor fellow???

RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Purely out of interest, why do you see strangeness in that
particular comment? (I will explain my interest, if you like).

Donal displays his incredible lack of sailing knowledge at every turn.
With a
comment like his, it's easy to see why he bought into Beneteau ads.
He found the 31 tough to steer? What boat is tough to steer when trimmed
correctly. Answer: None, not even the 31 with it's cruising underbody.
Please explain YOUR interest.

Well Bob, let me explain it for you.

Here is what I wrote:-
"The last time that I helmed an Oceanis, I thought that there was a serious
problem with the wheel steering. It turned out that I just wasn't used to
the small rudder."


I was on a sailing holiday which included the free use of some 10y/o 30'
ex-charter Oceanis boats.

I took the family out on one of these for a day sail.

The first time that I swung the wheel around - nothing happened for about
1-2 seconds. During these 1 to 2 seconds I thought that the steering had
failed. After a couple of seconds the boat began to respond, and I realised
that the steering was working.

On Setanta, the rudder is only a couple of inches shorter than the keel.
You can always spot a First series boat on the hard because the rudder is
longer than nearly all the other boats' rudders.


So you see, I was accustomed to a boat responding instantly to the
slightest touch on the tiller. The Oceanis has a much smaller rudder, and
for about 2 seconds *maximum* I thought that the steering had failed.


I don't think that you can suggest that I displayed a lack of sailing skills
in my actions. After all, like you I am a relative newcomer to sailing.
Unlike you, I am making some effort to gain some real experience.



Regards


Donal
--

The first time that I swung the wheel around - nothing happened for about
1-2 seconds.

BWAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHA! You've got to be KIDDING!!! This is your explanation???
BWAHAHAHAAHAHA! The boat had a 2 second DELAY to reacting to the rudder????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

Oh, my Dear Donal...you've simply outdone yourself!!! I only wish I'd written
your story as my own! Think of the response I would have gotten!

RB

Nonetheless he provided me with endless fun and opportunity
to hone my skill at verbal discourse and written reply. I liked Jax.....

I met Jax a few times at Styvesunt Yacht club. Nice fellow who enjoyed causing
trouble here.

RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The first time that I swung the wheel around - nothing happened for about
1-2 seconds.

BWAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHA! You've got to be KIDDING!!! This is your
explanation???
BWAHAHAHAAHAHA! The boat had a 2 second DELAY to reacting to the
rudder????

Maybe it was only one second. There was a definite delay.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

Oh, my Dear Donal...you've simply outdone yourself!!! I only wish I'd
written
your story as my own! Think of the response I would have gotten!

Nobody would have believed you. Then again, nobody ever does!



Regards


Donal
--

Still for a few minutes at a time it is possible on a well
tuned/trimmed boat with no lashing.

100% true. Properly trimmed sails will ballance the boat and rudder.

RB