Can you say "death roll". We got caught running briefly last Saturday, and
stared to intiate said action. Very uncomfortable, I can assure you.

Finally, a run is dangerous. Those rolls can cause the boom to swing across
and smash your crew's heads. A single quick roll can cascade into a series
of ever deeper dips, alternately to windward and leeward, ending with a wild
broach either to windward or to leeward. This series of events is so
catastrophic that it's called a death roll.

John Cairns
Gerard Weatherby wrote in message
...
There's an article on sailnet (

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...d=rousma0082%2
0%20&tfr=fp
or http://tinyurl.com/h9z6 ) which claims it's faster to tack downwind on
broad
reaches instead of running straight downwind. (Assuming you want to get
dead
downwind.) Have those of you who sail found this to be true? Let's
assume
there's no spinnaker since I don't have one.

S/V Cat's Meow
http://www.catsmeow.org

Odd.... I've rarely seen a wave train oriented differently than the wind
direction. The "Death Roll" is more common on fin keelers than full keelers.
I have never experienced a death roll scenario on my boat. I have on other
boats. If you have to quarter the wave train dead down wind.... adjust your
set or course to keep the vessel on a heel.


CM

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
| Can you say "death roll". We got caught running briefly last Saturday, and
| stared to intiate said action. Very uncomfortable, I can assure you.
|
| Finally, a run is dangerous. Those rolls can cause the boom to swing
across
| and smash your crew's heads. A single quick roll can cascade into a
series
| of ever deeper dips, alternately to windward and leeward, ending with a
wild
| broach either to windward or to leeward. This series of events is so
| catastrophic that it's called a death roll.
|
| John Cairns
| Gerard Weatherby wrote in message
| ...
| There's an article on sailnet (
|
|
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...d=rousma0082%2
| 0%20&tfr=fp
| or http://tinyurl.com/h9z6 ) which claims it's faster to tack downwind
on
| broad
| reaches instead of running straight downwind. (Assuming you want to get
| dead
| downwind.) Have those of you who sail found this to be true? Let's
| assume
| there's no spinnaker since I don't have one.
|
| S/V Cat's Meow
| http://www.catsmeow.org
|
|

Over proof that the wind shifts with depression while the sea state lags
behind or reflects a distant 'stalled' system?

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Odd.... I've rarely seen a wave train oriented differently than the wind
direction.

The J30 is a slug upwind on the
typical 10kt day with leftover chop.

Bwahahahahaha!!!!


RB

Tell me what you don't know? About high tech sails? High tech light weight
rigging? A worked hull-penalty!? How about solid vangs? Upgraded blocks and
track?

As I figured. Once again you prove you know nothing about boats and in this
instance the J30. Half the stuff you mentioned is not permitted by the class
rules. You fell into my trap Boobie. There's not much to "trick out" on a
J30. Back to the matrix!
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

,,About high tech sails?

****Class rules spec Dacron main.

,,,Upgraded blocks and track?.

****Can't change factory tracks Boobie.

High tech light weight rigging?

****I'm sure if I address this you'll say you ment running rigging so I'll give
you that one.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

,,,Upgraded blocks and track?.

****Can't change factory tracks Boobie.

New factory tracks ARE and upgrade dummy!!!!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

,,About high tech sails?

****Class rules spec Dacron main.

Did I say Mylar? Do you know the diff between cruising and racing sails???

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

RB

,,About high tech sails?

****Class rules spec Dacron main.

According to Loco, there's no such thing has high tech dacron sails!!!!

Bwahahahahaha! Some "trap" bwahahahahahaha!

RB