Would you prefer a Sabre 362 or Tartan 3800 if both were of even vintage and
condition?

Sabre
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Sabre

CM


why?

I guess it comes down to lines and design. Both have good names... both are useless fin keelers with foam cored decks.... both look really cool on their brochures. Here's the sailcalc read out... I like the Sabre's capsize ratio, motion comfort and heavier class in the LWL/Displacement Ratio.

I like both the vessels so it's a hard choice.... I just liked the Sabre a bit better. Heh... you asked.

CM





Performance Comparison LOA Sabre 362 (CB) 36.2

Tartan 3700 37

LWL Sabre 362 (CB) 30.4

Tartan 3700 32.5

Beam Sabre 362 (CB) 12

Tartan 3700 12.63

Displacement Sabre 362 (CB) 14980

Tartan 3700 16150

Sail Area Sabre 362 (CB) 634

Tartan 3700 727.5

Capsize Ratio Sabre 362 (CB) 1.95

Tartan 3700 2

Hull Speed Sabre 362 (CB) 7.39

Tartan 3700 7.64

Sail Area to Displacement Sabre 362 (CB) 16.69

Tartan 3700 18.22

Displacement to LWL Sabre 362 (CB) 238

Tartan 3700 210

LWL to Beam Sabre 362 (CB) 2.53

Tartan 3700 2.57

Motion Comfort Sabre 362 (CB) 26.1

Tartan 3700 24.96

Pounds/Inch Sabre 362 (CB) 1303

Tartan 3700 1467


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message ...
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The original question concerned a 3800, which is a different design, but similar size.
It has a balsa cored deck, and hull above the water line.

TARTAN 3800 SPECIFICATIONS:
LOA: 38'0" (11.6 m.)
LWL 31'0" (9.5 m.)
Beam 12'5" (3.8 m.)
Draft 6'10" (2.1 m.)
Draft (shoal) 5'4" (1.6 m.)
Ballast 6500/7000 lbs. (2950/3175 kgs.)
Displacement 16,000 lbs. (7258 kgs.)
Sail Area 672 sq. ft. (62.4 sq. m.)
Mast Above Water 55'0" (16.8 m.)
Ballast/Disp. .41/.44
Disp/Length 239.8
SA/Disp 17
Fuel Tankage 38 gal. (144 l.)
Water Tankage 80 gal. (303 l.)
Auxiliary Westerbeke 37-hp. diesel
Cabin Headroom 6'5" (1.96 m.)
Designer Tim Jackett




"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

I guess it comes down to lines and design. Both have good names... both are useless fin keelers with foam cored decks.... both look really cool on their brochures. Here's the sailcalc read out... I like the Sabre's capsize ratio, motion comfort and heavier class in the LWL/Displacement Ratio.

I like both the vessels so it's a hard choice.... I just liked the Sabre a bit better. Heh... you asked.

CM





Performance Comparison LOA Sabre 362 (CB) 36.2

Tartan 3700 37

LWL Sabre 362 (CB) 30.4

Tartan 3700 32.5

Beam Sabre 362 (CB) 12

Tartan 3700 12.63

Displacement Sabre 362 (CB) 14980

Tartan 3700 16150

Sail Area Sabre 362 (CB) 634

Tartan 3700 727.5

Capsize Ratio Sabre 362 (CB) 1.95

Tartan 3700 2

Hull Speed Sabre 362 (CB) 7.39

Tartan 3700 7.64

Sail Area to Displacement Sabre 362 (CB) 16.69

Tartan 3700 18.22

Displacement to LWL Sabre 362 (CB) 238

Tartan 3700 210

LWL to Beam Sabre 362 (CB) 2.53

Tartan 3700 2.57

Motion Comfort Sabre 362 (CB) 26.1

Tartan 3700 24.96

Pounds/Inch Sabre 362 (CB) 1303

Tartan 3700 1467


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message ...
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I'll beat you to it....

-- why?

It's the better oat, even though both are quality boats...just like Sabres a lot better than Tartans....they look better on
top...better basements....
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

yes


"SkitchNYC" wrote...
Would you prefer a Sabre 362 or Tartan 3800 if both were of even vintage
and
condition?

Sabre 362

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein