On 2/26/2014 11:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage



In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html



Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to
retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony. When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.




That's all fine and good but you didn't address my question. If
someone breaks into your house but immediately says, "I am not here to
hurt you, I just want money and jewelry"... do you have the legal right
to shoot him?

The Castle laws are a stand your ground law that applies in your home.
To my knowledge you still have to have to have a genuine fear of
imminent death or great bodily harm to justify shooting the intruder.

If this is true, I don't see what the difference is between being in
danger of death of great bodily harm in your house, outside the house,
down the street or at the supermarket.