On 2/17/14, 5:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:18:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:



On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:















You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply







religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for

thousands of







years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is







something I don't know.











How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which

civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well

as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..







Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for

'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....







But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more

power to you...















Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations



of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and



planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the



Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said



he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was



forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the



solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his



teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.







So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,



that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who



believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without



question a testament to the thousands of years of religious

misinformation.







After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was



denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.



You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo

didn't live 'thousands' of years ago.







It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude.



Galileo was an advocate of the theories of Copernicus. He suffered for it.

Like Galileo and Newton, Nick Copernicus didn't live 'thousands' of years ago



The point, which seems lost here, is that the belief that the sun
revolves around the earth is an ancient religious belief that was
carried forward by more modern religions, and that the people who still
believe it do so out of ignorance and religious belief and superstition.
And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in
trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking
literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this
planet.