On 2/14/2014 1:41 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:37:07 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/14/2014 1:19 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:05:44 -0500, KC wrote:



Awesome... now let's continue on. Explain to me what it's called when I
maneuver through a wavy rutt, or a rutted long corner (rutted or flat)
with absolutely zero steering pressure applied by myself to the handle
bars? And before you say it can't happen. I can do both, with a dead
mans throttle and no hands....

Ah, yes...we were talking about wavy ruts and rutted long corners. ****. Luddite should have been
more clear in his original post. I thought he was talking about street riding. My bad.

As to your question above, that style is called "Maneuvering through a wavy rutt, or a rutted long
corner (rutted or flat) with absolutely zero steering pressure applied to the handle bars". It's a
great technique when you're riding in a wavy rut or a rutted long corner (rutted or flat). Just be
sure to look where you want to go.



Ok, let me rephrase it to avoid the dodge, and the self serving
mocking...... Or you can just dodge again...

I can go down a flat curvy road/track and turn the bike side to side
with out touching the bars (assume coasting or dead mans throttle) by
simply shifting my body weight absolutely no hands on the bars and
negotiate the corners. I could lean the bike into a continuous circle
with a dead mans throttle and no hands on the bars. What do you call
that? And before you answer, I already know the answer, it's kind of a
trick question but go for it... Let's see if your book learned, or you
get it.. Cause I think you were the one who was actually confused
yesterday and you "morphed" your understanding as the day went on...
Just sayin. So, what do "you" call it?

It's called riding with no hands while coasting or dead man's throttle. If you do it long enough
it's called 'bike laying on side'.

It's not what I call road riding.

In case you've not yet figured it out, I'm basically done with you.


I knew it! You really don't get it do you? It's ok, I am not gonna' "two
stroke oil" you.. as long as we all maintain the spirit of the group,
and move on....

Anyway, the answer to my quesion, the question you obviously couldn't
answer is.... and read carefully..."when I go through a corner with no
hands on the bars I am... wait for it... I AM COUNTER-STEERING through
the corner!" See why I said it was a trick question? Ok here's why...

Yup, I am just initiating the counter steer by leaning... and allowing
the geometry of the bike put "pressure on the bars" instead of applying
that pressure with my hands. I just knew you really didn't get it. Maybe
this will help.. You can counter-steer to initiate a lean, or you can
lean to initiate a counter-steer.... I knew it... Book learned.... ugh...

Oh, and you won't end up with "the bike on the ground" with no hands in
a circle, if you *maintain the balance* ie. *don't lean out of the
counter steer*. If I maintain my speed and balance, I could go in
circles forever...I am sure you don't get that either.... but...



ugh.. probably shouldn't bother, sure you don't appreciate it...