On 2/14/2014 11:42 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 11:33 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/14/2014 11:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:53 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:27 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:06 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/14/2014 9:30 AM, KC wrote:
Yup, counter steer, then steer, then countersteer again.... got
it...
but not "through the corner".. your own pics are clear....
thanks....

I hope you can remember all that in the middle of a critical turn.

Don't have to, haven't you been reading. If the bike turns, you are
doing it... no other way around it...


The goal is to make it turn in the direction and manner that you
*want*
it to turn. :-)

I am not questioning anything you are saying as it relates to dirt
bike
racing. It's a unique form of riding and you do things that us street
bikers don't do .. at least not on purpose. We don't go airborne, we
don't try to plant a new direction of travel upon landing, we don't
slide around corners or do any of the other maneuvers you are
skilled in
doing. I couldn't do a wheelie on a Harley UltraClassic if I tried.

None of them apply to the millions of people riding street bikes on
roads and highways.

That's a red herring... There are plenty of turns we make just like
you.
You didn't answer my question though...

You are saying countersteering is not related to the angle of the bars
in relation to the centerline of the bike, you are saying
countersteering is related to the pressure applied against the plane
formed by the gyroscopic pressures on the bike? Right?

We also use this method to lean the bike for a move called a scrub... A
scrub is a maneuver we use to keep the bike low on a jump, the idea
being to get back down to the track a few feet earlier and get forward
bite before the next guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYytyij1wII


You countersteer on the way up the face of the jump to lean the bike and
dampen the upward forces on the bike... "scrubbing" off the energy of
the jump...

I'm afraid we'll have to take your word on this.

I guess if you can't see it in your head, you just will..
I see enough things in my head already. I don't need to visualize this.