On 2/14/2014 10:53 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:27 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 10:06 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/14/2014 9:30 AM, KC wrote:
Yup, counter steer, then steer, then countersteer again.... got it...
but not "through the corner".. your own pics are clear.... thanks....

I hope you can remember all that in the middle of a critical turn.

Don't have to, haven't you been reading. If the bike turns, you are
doing it... no other way around it...


The goal is to make it turn in the direction and manner that you *want*
it to turn. :-)

I am not questioning anything you are saying as it relates to dirt bike
racing. It's a unique form of riding and you do things that us street
bikers don't do .. at least not on purpose. We don't go airborne, we
don't try to plant a new direction of travel upon landing, we don't
slide around corners or do any of the other maneuvers you are skilled in
doing. I couldn't do a wheelie on a Harley UltraClassic if I tried.

None of them apply to the millions of people riding street bikes on
roads and highways.

That's a red herring... There are plenty of turns we make just like you.
You didn't answer my question though...

You are saying countersteering is not related to the angle of the bars
in relation to the centerline of the bike, you are saying
countersteering is related to the pressure applied against the plane
formed by the gyroscopic pressures on the bike? Right?

So you are saying in a left corner, with my forks turned left, I am
putting more pressure on the left bar... again, not the angle of the
bars, but the pressure on the bars... That I could buy.... but my forks
will still be turned left in relation to the centerline of the bike...