On 2/11/2014 10:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 10:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of
homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and
guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate
the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query
was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are
going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an
answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.


I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.







But, to continue in play the wrecked.bloats game...do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?



Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?
Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate
the question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed guess.

Whoops. Plagiarism.

The bottom line is that the referenced ordinance has nothing to do with
"taking blankets away from the homeless". It prohibits camping in
certain public areas.