On Saturday, 8 February 2014 22:48:19 UTC-4, HanK wrote:
On 2/8/2014 2:52 PM, True North wrote:

On Saturday, 8 February 2014 14:53:02 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 13:49:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







On 2/8/14, 1:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



On 2/8/2014 10:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



On 2/8/14, 10:52 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:43:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







On 2/8/14, 10:23 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:22:22 -0500, Wayne.B



wrote:







On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:02:34 -0500, Poco Loco



wrote:







We must be coming at it from different angles. I saw the



abstinence being taught as the only



'foolproof' method of preventing pregnancies and STD's, which it is.







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To me that's like saying that the only foolproof way of avoiding



automobile accidents is to not get in a car.







I agree. But if a kid thinks that rubbers, pills, IUDs, etc are the



'safe surefire way' to prevent



STDs and/or pregnancies, then this might be a worthwhile bit of



information.















Condoms are an effective way to prevent the transmission of venereal



diseases. The other methods you listed are not. Basing sex education



classes on the "wonderfulness" of abstinence tells the students you are



not taking the teaching of sex education seriously. Teaching students



that they need to use a condom every time to prevent the



transmission of



disease and to prevent pregnancy while engaging in sex *is* taking the



teaching of sex education seriously. No, the condoms are not 100%



effective, but if used properly, they are damned close to it.







Teenagers are going to engage in sexual activity. There's no question



about that. The "science" on that is settled. What responsible adults



need to do is make sure that the teens know to use a condom.















Back when I was 16, one of my after school jobs was working at a small



pharmacy in a pretty rough neighborhood. I was the combination soda



jerk, delivery boy, and salesman of booze and condoms. The latter two



activities were illegal for a kid my age, of course, but the



pharmacist/owner said no one from the alcohol board had ever been in



his



store. Condoms were a grey area back then in Connecticut. They were



kept



behind the counter and when someone came in to buy some, I had to go



fetch them. Some of the buyers were high school kids. That made the



pharmacist smile because, he said, there would be fewer teen



pregnancies



in the neighborhood if the boys were "wearing a raincoat."







I understand that many Americans have sexual hangups. I managed to grow



up without them.















Where did anyone say anything about *basing* sex education on



'abstinence', Harry?







When you were 16, as now, you were perfect.











Hardy, but no one taught or told me that "sex is dirty."







Where and who in this discussion every said or suggested that "sex is



dirty"? Freudian slip?







I get the impression that John is somewhat repressive on the subject.







I'll confess, I've not done the job, as well as some here, of describing my sexual prowess!







(But, in Vietnam my First Sergeant made sure there was a box of condoms on his desk free for the



taking- up to three a day.)



Was their use restricted to the officer's showers?



You're even creepier than Krause or slammer sometimes.

Take that back, Hanky!