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Hank

On 1/21/2014 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:48 -0600, amdx wrote:

That would make an 11.6% reduction in the amount of residential
electricity used. I assumed the algore lights use 10% of the old style.
That may be to low.
That's an extra $550 a year in your pocket.
Mikek

I walked around last night to see what was on. I had a pair of 4 ft
T-8s in the kitchen, the light over my chair (a 250w dimmed to about
25-30%), a can with a 75w dimmed to 40% or so over my wife's chair and
the TV. Everything else was on motion control.
That is typical for us here.
No way is lighting much more than a couple percent of my electric
bill.,

I really think the answer is not better bulbs, it is in better
lighting plans. A $20 occupancy sensor will pay for itself a lot
faster than a $20 LED bulb that you don't turn off when you no longer
need it.
There is also the convenience of having the lights come on, wherever
you go and go off when you leave.

BTW I have never said I won't use CFLs, I have a bunch of them
installed already. My only comment was it is not a place where the
government should be "banning" anything.
I am still testing the theory that CFLs are not very tolerant of a lot
of switching but I know they don't like solid state switching devices.
The places I have them need relay (3 wire) motion detectors, not solid
state (2 wire) occupancy sensors. The problem with a motion detector
vs an occupancy sensor is the motion detector does not retrigger when
it is on The light goes off and comes back on when you move. That is
OK for your walking around lights but sucks if you are staying in one
place very long. If you put an incandescent somewhere in the O/S
circuit they work with a CFL but that somewhat defeats the purpose.

I have some battery operated motion sensor lights. They help light the
way to some of my light switches mounted in awkward locations in the camper