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On 12/24/13, 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 21:26:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/23/13, 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:48:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I detect some sort of slam in your comment about Jews. Perhaps you'd
care to expand on the phrase "...the difference is pretty much
semantic," since I am not sure what you mean. Do you know what you mean?

Not meant as a slam, simply an observation. Most
agnostic/atheist/nihalist type folks I know have come from a mixed
Jewish/Catholic background.
Bill Maher is a classic case in the celebrity world.

The difference between atheists and agnostics is mostly semantics.
An agnostic is just an atheist who is not willing to commit.
You have committed, you ridicule anyone who believes in any kind if
deity or any religious belief so you are not agnostic.

I only know one atheist. Among the handful of agnostics I know
personally, one was Jewish and the other four or five were Protestants.

Your understanding of the difference between atheists and agnostics
is...humorous. An atheist denies or disbelieves the existence of a god.
An agnostic believes the existence of a god is unknown and unknowable.
Perhaps in your mind that means agnostics are "unwilling to commit," but
the differences are far more complicated. You'd have to have taken a
number of liberal arts courses to know that, of course.

You're also wrong about what you think I believe. My problem is not
whether there is or is not a creator. I don't know the answer to that,
and I never will. My problem is with "organized" religion, which I think
is pretty much a crock...especially the more fundamentalist, right-wing
Protestant sects, which are loud, doctrinaire, and judgmental, and want
to force their beliefs onto everyone.

I agree with you on "brand loyalty" but I do not have the disrespect
bordering on outright hatred you have for people who do believe.
You represent yourself as agnostic but your statements here are
straight out of the atheist handbook.

I've not read the "atheist handbook." Which edition do you recommend?

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