Marsh Jones wrote in message news:acy_a.94762$cF.29148@rwcrnsc53...
Tim Ingram wrote:
squall. High initial stability, loss of secondary stability.

Marsh



You might as well get this right:

http://www.1stBooks.com/bookview/16818

(paste in browser address bar if necessary)

As you will read in the described contents of the book: Sponsons are
not intentended for WW. WW is a special murder technique on its' own.
Most people do not die on WW. They die of hypothermia, wearing a PFD
or not.

The rate of US canoe and kayak deaths per exposure hour far exceeds
the worst vehicle scandals (Ford Firestone 15+), the fatalities in
19th century mining in Great Britain 1000+, and the current fatalities
in Iraq per exposure hour, in harm's way.

You have participated in the largest experiment in social psychology
since the Yale/Milgram experiments of the 60's. Goldhagen's "Hitler's
Willing Executioners", describes a similar group behavior to RBP, such
as the SS, basing execution on inferior "skills or other qualities".
This was a best-seller in Germany, as well as a 1994 Harvard
dissertation.

You have recently contributed to the murder of 2, eleven year old Girl
Guides.

Tim

...rising to bait... ...can't help myself... ...CTRLAlt... ...
oh, what the hell:

Since I don't do whitewater, but do a *lot* of fla****er canoeing and
kayaking, particularly in cooler climes, I'll call you on this one. Not
sponsons, dry suits, Mustang survival suits or anything else will
prevent underequipped, ill prepared, unskilled people from venturing out
in conditions above their ability. Any device that provides this sense
of false security has about the same utility as an out of date condom.

Just a simple stat, taken from:
http://198.66.37.82/issues/articles/DrowningFacts.html

"According to the United States Coast Guard, deaths associated with
recreational boating numbered 734 in the United States and its
territories. Drowning accounted for 517 of the deaths. The Coast Guard
estimates that about 450 boaters who drowned could have been saved by
wearing a life jacket. Alcohol was reported to be involved in 191 (26%)
of the deaths."

This covers all recreational boaters in the US, not just canoes and
kayaks for the year 1998. Most boating deaths reported in Minnesota
involve some combination of night, storm, no PFD, and alcohol, not
canoes or kayaks. In the past year, I cannot recall a single death
related to a kayak or canoe in this state,which has more registered
canoes and kayaks per 100,000 residents than any other. We have more
people die every year on snowmobiles than in all boats. (maybe a new
market - sponsons for snowmobiles)

As you have directly, and without warrant, called me an accessory to
murder, I'll take the unprecedented action for me and suggest you take
your sponsons, remove the arms so they don't get in the way, and put
them where the sun don't shine.

Marsh

Stupidly Marsh, You do not understand rate of death.

Canoes and Kayaks have the highest rate of death in US history. This
is due to the deliberate behavior of a tiny industry (about 100,000
new boats a year total!) deliberately organized to murder as many
people as possible.

Stupid Marsh. Good thing it is such a tiny industry or we could have
millions of dead citizens. But yours is only a tiny death cult.

Stupid, mean and deadly to kids, or any one else in a kayak or canoe.

Tim