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On Thursday, 14 November 2013 11:01:43 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2013 9:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/14/13, 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 11/14/2013 8:18 AM, John H wrote:






In another post you mentioned "Universal Pre-Kindergarden Day Care".


This would, of course, require


government employees to manage the program and increase the dependency


of government handouts. In


other words, another ploy to buy Democrat votes.




It's all in the votes bought at the expense of the


'soon-to-be-minority' of the population that pays


any taxes.




John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!










We used to call them "babysitters" and we paid for them ourselves


because we had to work.












You boys are decades behind the times.




When my kids got to be preschool age, in the mid 70's, it cost $75 a kid


a week to send a kid to a licensed preschool with a quality program and


good teachers in our DC suburb, or about $600 a month for both of them


until one was old enough for public school kindergarten. It was do-able


on a middle class income. Nowadays, according to my neighbors, the same


sort of quality preschool is $1000 to $1200 a month for *one* child,


putting preschool out of the reach of most middle class income families,


and if they have two or three preschool kids, forget about it.




Public preschool allows both parents in a middle class household to work


and allows the parent in a single parent household to work. That's one


of the realities of life these days...it is much more expensive then


when you fellow old farts were raising babies, and incomes in terms of


real dollars have not kept pace for middle and lower income families.








In our old fart days, that's what friends, family and grandparents were

for in many cases. I recall Navy wives taking turns watching kids so

the others could work or take care of errands. We are not talking about

educating future Einsteins in "Pre-Kindergarden" for cripes sake. It's

basically day care.



When our youngest came on the scene in the 1980's he went to a licensed

day care place so Mrs.E. could go back to work. We paid for it but it

was still affordable. You have to decide if the cost of daycare versus

what you make working makes sense. It's part of the responsibility of

having and raising kids.



I can also remember being five years old and being with my grandmother

while my mother went to work.



Now the federal government is going to fund daycare services with

taxpayer's money?



For decades now, certain factions have been trying to get govt supplied daycare here.
At this point there are x number of positions available for low income families.
We had our two boys in a Pre School but had to pay the full price because of our combined incomes.