On 11/8/13, 7:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2013 6:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/8/13, 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2013 5:01 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



The Tea Party is a conglomeration of white trash, with the emphasis on
trash. The elected politicians who claim to be Tea Party members are
racist obstructionists who hate government and want to destroy it.
They're secessionists. Their followers are ignorant and stupid. I'm not
surprised you admire them and think they are good people.



Hypothetical:

The impossible happens and Ted Cruz is elected POTUS in 2016. In the
first few months of his presidency two bills are introduced in Congress
with the full support of Cruz who promises to immediately sign them into
law.

The first is to overturn Roe v. Wade, making abortions illegal.

The second is to reinstate both prayer and teaching of creationism in
public schools.

As a liberal, progressive Democrat, how hard would you be willing to
fight to prevent these bills from becoming law?

Point is the Tea Party crowd are as passionate about their beliefs as
liberal Democrats are about theirs.


Disclaimer: This post is in no way intended to suggest agreement or
support of the "Tea Party" movement.

There's not much that can be done while such bills were moving through
Congress. If they were passed, though, I of course would support the
efforts of interested parties to file suit in U.S. District Court in the
District of Columbia for injunctions, which I assure you would be
granted. The District Court would find both unConstitutional. Cruz would
appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth District, which would
uphold the District Court. Cruz would try to get the U.S. Supreme Court
to take an appeal. Since both laws would be in violation of settled law,
it is not likely the Supremes would take the case. If they did, they
would find for settled law, and Cruz would again be the fool.

Those sorts of beliefs of course would keep Cruz from being elected in
the first place. Cruz would be slaughtered in the popular and electoral
vote and that might actually signal the end of the Republican Party.




Thoughtful answer. Thanks.

I guess the Tea Party crowd don't want to mess with courts, so they just
block everything at the Congress level.



I don't know how the GOP extricates itself from the crazies who control
the party or whether it even wants to do so. The U.S. House Tea Party
members are in safe gerrymandered districts. Sitting U.S. Senators are
hard to pry out of office. The last two days of negative comments coming
from the far right about Chris Christie are, I think, indicators that
the Republicans aren't going to change. The funny thing, of course, is
that Christie is a genuine conservative, but not conservative enough for
the Tea Party types.

Of course I have no idea who is going to be the standard bearer for
either party in 2016. But I do know that for the Dems, it will not be a
crazy person. For the Repubs, I'm pretty sure it will be. Someone like
Jon Huntsman, Jr., hasn't a chance for the nomination, but he'd do well
in the general election.

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