"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 9/19/13 2:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 9/19/13 8:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 9/19/13 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other.


Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright
gun-
owners be treated like smokers.
Just don't seem right.
If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright
gun
owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who
will?
Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful!
It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right.
What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill
everybody?
Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard.
But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early.

Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they
want.



Uh, no.

Uh, yes, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil
Rights
law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc. Anyone can be determined to
be
persona non grata at the discretion of the business owner if he/she
feels that person is or may be disruptive to the business.



That's right...you can't legally discriminate and therefore private
businesses do not have the right to deny service to anyone they want
without a reason that doesn't violate the law.

So, the answer remains, "Uh, no."

Sorry Harry. You are wrong on this one. I've booted people out of
the
guitar shop who weren't violating any laws but were being total
asses.
Not many, but a handful over the 4 plus years I had the shop.
After
the first experience I checked the legality of my actions with a
lawyer. Perfectly legal, and within my rights as the owner of the
business.

I've also seen professionals banned from places of business .... in
this
case not mine, but one I worked for. Again, perfectly legal and
within
the rights of the business owner.




I said you couldn't discriminate for reasons that violated the law
and,
also, I doubt your guitar show came under the umbrella of a public
accommodation.

Words are important.

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Good grief. My initial first sentence following my, "Uh, yes" in
response to your "Uh, no" was:

",,, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil Rights
law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc."

and, yes, a guitar shop, a pet food store, a bar, a supermarket are
*all* considered public places unless they are registered as private
clubs with membership requirements. You can restrict entry or
boot someone out if you determine it to be necessary, again as long as
you are not violating any law in doing so. There's nothing illegal
about booting someone out the door if they are being obnoxious or
disruptive. At least that's how it is up here. Your mileage may
vary.