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Default Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:59:21 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:28:17 AM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:06:26 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



On Friday, September 13, 2013 8:20:09 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:






Some, like S&W have been at full capacity for the past 5 years,


indicating a strong demand for their products. Additionally, new


applications for permits have been at record levels. Despite this,


gun related homicides nationally are declining.




Which would seem to disprove the title of this thread, and the supposed statistical link claimed by the study.




Some dimwits aren't smart enough to realize that these two ideas are
not at odds with one another. You can have both a declining homocide
rate and a higher rate of homicide in regions with higher gun
ownership.


Yet Chicago, with its tough gun laws, has a high rate. "Even supporters of the city's gun laws admit they don't address the social problems behind the shootings that continue to plague Chicago—400 so far this year. "You can try to legislate morality but it's really not something you can do," says Jason Ervin, alderman of the 28th Ward, a stretch of Chicago's west side battered by crime and disinvestment."

So guns aren't really the problem, eh?

Some people have the academic credentials and investment into the
subject matter to make claims and some people do not.

Why don't you dimwits leave the thinking to those with brains enough
to do so.


You don't have the credentials to make the statements above. After all, you think that people with an academic background magically don't have an agenda when writing a report. How naïve is that?


It's not naive. The numbers are the numbers. You just don't want to
face facts.

Doesn't have anything to do with laws, just density of ownership (yes,
double entendre).