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F.O.A.D.

On 8/28/13 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:12:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Has anyone had any better success with drug addiction?

The 12-Step programs are self-help and reassurance programs, they are
not the sort of "therapy" many addicts need. That therapy incorporates
traditional therapy, whether individual or group, and in many cases,
prescription therapy. If a drug addict goes cold turkey by
himself/herself and right into some 12-step program, the addict has a
good chance of falling over and dying.

The religious underpinnings and overlay of 12-step programs are
off-putting for many addicts. A lot of people simply don't want religion
shoved down their throats.

Conventional therapy is substituting one drug for another.
Is Methadone really that much better than Heroin?
I understand drug companies make the money not drug smugglers but the
drug is about the same.

Religion based programs do have the advantage that they are
substituting a belief for a drug but I guess you think that is as bad.

I do agree it is not the kind of thing that will be successful if it
is just a sentence from a court. They have to believe it will work or
it won't work. The reality is these things don't really work anyway
until the addict decides they don't want to be addicted anymore.
For some, there is no "bottom" that is low enough to do that.

Maybe we should just have drug zones and let them kill themselves.
Free drugs, all you want anytime you want them and come in every
morning with a Bobcat to pick up the bodies.

There are many types of what you call "conventional" therapy. The
12-step programs are not really therapy; they are support mechanisms.

And, once again, if you are an addict on serious **** like heroin, and
you stop cold turkey without using a prescribed substitute under careful
watch, you might die while trying to get clean.

And, no, I don't believe "faith healing" is the antidote for physical or
mental/emotional illnesses. God didn't make you sick and god isn't going
to cure you.