"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 8/23/13 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:22:33 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

k.

I also have both military electronics school USAF and civilian
electronics
school, NCR computers, and an EE university degree.i hired lots of
Cal and
Stanford EEs over the years. Most have no practical knowledge.
Were not
as good of engineers as those with practical training also. And
Mr.
Luddite is correct. Navy techs were the best! Learned how to fix,
and
just not swap parts.

IBM experimented in the early 70s by hiring 4 EEs into the FE
division. (vets were getting to be hard to find)
One was eventually moved to a traditional engineering job at FSD and
ended up retiring from Loral. I still talk to him.
One was fast tracked into management, the AA to the division
president
the last time I saw him and we ended up firing the other 2 because
they couldn't fix anything and they refused to learn anything. They
already knew it all.



Well, gosh, let's close down all the EE mills.

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Harry, you have a very biased and myopic view of education,
particularly technical. You seem to regard college as the panacea for
all things great.

A college awarded EE degree mostly benefits the holder of the degree.
It qualifies him/her for job opportunities where some experience,
usually within a very narrow field of application may be gained.

Military technical training is intended to benefit the mission of the
military. The schools are not diploma mills. They also enable one
to gain serious, practical experience, often under pressure. When
that experience is applied in the civilian sector the person's
capabilities often exceeds that of the college only educated engineer.

I know. I hired many engineers over the years. Some were very good,
some not so good. Generally those with a technical degree that also
included military technical training and experience were the best,
not just in capability but in their general attitude about getting the
job done.