On 7/30/13 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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What do you propose to make up for the lack of jobs, the lack of jobs
with benefits, the lack of jobs with decent pay, the lack of health
care, the lack of affordable higher or vocational education, the lack of
the ability to put enough aside for a retirement? Soylent Green?

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If we keep going the way we are heading the fictitious "Soylent
Corporation" will be replaced by the very real federal government, at
least until it collapses.

I think we need to balance government investments in both social welfare
and industry areas with accountability for results.
If it doesn't work, don't continue to invest the taxpayer's money in
it. That's the problem with entitlement programs. Once started, it's
almost impossible to end them, regardless of how ineffective they are.

Most importantly, any government subsidized program must have an "exit"
plan so to speak. We simply can't afford to pile entitlements on top of
entitlements that robs the recipients of any incentive to work to
improve their own station in life. Unfortunately, with few exceptions,
that's how it is today and is heading to get even worse.



Let's keep this simple, just for the sake of keeping it simple.

Posit, that an increasing number of employers are paying wages that are
relatively flat, that they are cutting way back on benefits such as
health care insurance and a defined retirement program, that jobs
themselves are more disposable than ever and new jobs are hard to find,
to the point that workers, faced with these circumstances, can barely
support themselves and their families, even with two paychecks.

So, in the absence of employer supplied healthcare and an employer
supplied pension and in the face of lousy wages and poor employment
possibilities, what is the equitable solution for the average middle
income or lower income worker? Being dropped off by the side of the road
to die is not something my "socialist" heart is willing to accept.

Seriously. If the private sector isn't supplying, if the workers can't
make enough to support themselves with food, housing, clothing,
education, health care and a retirement, despite their best efforts,
where do you see society going?