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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· is offline
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Default No massive refit at all

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:59:04 -0400, " Sir Gergory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

Regarding Message-ID:

Dear Capt. Skippy,

We real sailors never have the need for a massive refit
and if, heaven forbid, we did have such a need, due to
some extraordinary circumstance, even so, it would be
an admission of sloth and other such lubberly traits.

So what do we real sailors do as everybody knows nothing
is forever and breakage and routine maintenance is a fact
of life? Well, we real sailors live aboard and we never allow
the type of decrepitude that requires a massive refit.
Instead, we spend our time daily doing the required upkeep
and routine maintenance so as to never require a massive
refit. We have our priorities straight and our ducks in a row.
We can't abide anything other than shipshape and Bristol
Fashion.

Real sailors would be mortified to admit they required a
massive refit. Even pretend sailors should have the
common sense and sense of pride to never give a blow
by blow account of a massive refit in Internet discussion
groups because doing so is a public admission of lubberly
incompetence. If one is incompetent and lubberly, the
very least one can do is have the decency to not claim
to be a sailor.


Strangely considering the author :-), the above is a massive display
of utter ignorance. Working ships frequently undergo "massive refits".
I've got a good friend, a marine engineer, who has been making a very
good living for the past 20 years as Project manager on "massive
refits" of commercial vessels.



FYI, working ships have to be economically viable propositions.
One way to accomplish this is to run them 24/7/365 until it
would be too dangerous and too costly to continue. So this
requires a massive refit from time to time. (Some of the cruise
ships might need a such a massive refit more often considering
the abysmal record of late from some of them that break
down and have to be towed into port with most everything not
working - not even the sewage system). I can't remember
the last time my cedar bucket broke down. ;-) There's a
lesson in there somewhere, folks simplify, simplify, simplify!

Anyway, recreational sailors have no need to run their vessels
into the ground like commercial vessels. That you seem willing to
compare apples and oranges casts doubt upon your qualifications
as a recreational sailor. But, perhaps you've been away from it
for so long that you've simply forgotten how it should be done?

But more to the question, how would the owner of a "Blue Water Sailing
Yacht" know whether he has an actually blue water boat if he never
goes sailing"?


Never goes sailing? Sounds like a big PKB to me. One need not
join the madding crowd in the Caribbean to be called a sailor. The
Caribbean crowd sailors have no idea of the efficacy and no desire
to be completely out of the loop. Nay, they need to be near civilization
so they can Tweet, Facebook, Usenet, email etc. IOW, it's, "HEY
LOOKIT MEEEEEE!" You call THATsailing? OMG, Joshua Slocum
is spinning in his watery grave! The only reason that old gentlman
discussed his sailing is because he needed to earn some cash.
Had he been independently wealthy nobody would have every
heard of him and Rubes like you would be saying. Slocum?
Why, he's no sailor. He never goes anywhere. How droll.

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Sir Gregory