On 7/10/13 11:11 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 7/10/13 10:54 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 7/10/13 10:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
Seeing how John and Scotty like to put everyone in narrow categories,
does this mean that all Christians think this way, or just Baptists??

http://tinyurl.com/n4cgjfn



I think many white Southern Baptists are in a very special, closed
minded, everyone who doesn't believe in the bible as we do is the enemy
kind of world. I've seen it first hand. I actually was present when a
Southern Baptist pastor told a group of people that Jesus changed water
into grape juice, not into wine. I couldn't help it, I burst out
laughing.

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As a teenager I visited a Chinese church in Boston. I don't recall the
denomination, but in the hierarchy of Christian churches it was in the
"high" category, meaning the structure of the services were very similar
to a Roman Catholic church service. They used grape juice for Holy
Communion.

Which, of course, has nothing to do with the claim that Jesus changed
water into grape juice.

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Does it really matter what others want to believe? I'll play
iBoaterer for a moment. :-)
Please provide *proof* that Jesus turned water into wine and not grape
juice (or Kool Aid for that matter).





I couldn't provide proof that the person christians worship as jesus
even existed. The tales about him were not written contemporaneously,
and probably not to those to whom they are attributed.

The baptist belief about grape juice, of course, is promoted because of
the sect's disdain for alcoholic drinks. But, if jesus did exist, he was
a practicing jew and wine was important to jewish celebrations and
festivals. Wine, not grape juice.