On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:15:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



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On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:44:22 -0400, John H
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:02:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:25:49 -0400, "Eisboch"
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The background check simply verifies that you are not a felon,
crazy
or otherwise not permitted to own a gun. In MA, it's done at the
time
you apply for a permit and the reason it takes so long is because
they
actually *do* an FBI background check on you. Once it's done and
the
permit is issued, the only other "check" is done whenever you
purchase a firearm. It's to verify that your permit is valid and
in
good standing, you are who you claim you are and there are no
warrants etc., since getting the permit. Only takes a few
minutes.


Who pays whom?

John H.

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Not sure what you are asking. If I go purchase a handgun or rifle
tomorrow, I'll fill out a form, the dealer will either call or
connect via Internet to the MA Criminal Bureau, give them my permit
number and other info, have me put my index finger on a digital
fingerprint pad and it transmits it to the Bureau. Within seconds
the
digital fingerprint image confirms that indeed, it's me (matches
the
original fingerprints taken when I applied for a permit), I pay for
the gun and go home. I don't pay for any of the instant
background
check verification.



If you sell a gun to your wife, who pays for the background check
(s), and who gets paid?

See, the impetus for all the background checking paperwork and
bureaucracy isn't the safety of the
citizens, it's bigger government and more taxes.

Which of the atrocities over the years would have been prevented with
a background check? Would the
murder rate in Chicago or Detroit go down with more background
checks?

I am not convinced.

John H.

Many places require that any transfer of a handgun (private gift or
sale) requires that the receiver of the gun must have a gun permit.

Background checks don't seem to work, because they only "apply" to the
lawful. By FAR, most of the gun violence is centered in large cities.

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This debate is getting tangle footed.

Here's what I would propose:

A background check is required to obtain a permit to own a handgun or
rifle.
Once issued, the only "check" required to purchase a firearm is to
ensure the permit is in good standing and the person buying the
firearm is who he/she claims to be. That's where the fingerprints
come in.

I am not advocating a background check every time you buy a gun. The
background check is done once to obtain a permit.


More bureaucracy, more taxes, bigger AFGE.

And it solves nothing.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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