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I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. In most states
you must have a background check to obtain a permit. What's the big
deal about verifying that the permit is valid for both seller and
buyer in a private transfer? Again, it only takes a few minutes.
It's *verifying* the permit, not doing a new background check each
time.

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that’s if you have or can get a permit to carry. Near impossible in
most of
California. Some counties are easier, but every urban county is about
99.9%
no!

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That's what Massachusetts was like about 15 years ago. Permits for
hunting rifles and handguns for target practice or competition
shooting were approved but very few concealed carry permits (Class A)
were allowed. Class B permits were the best you could expect which
are typically for home defense only or for range shooting and does not
allow concealed carry in public. How the allowed firearms were
transported to and from the hunting area or shooting range was highly
regulated (disassembled and in a locked case, transported preferably
in the trunk of your car).

Massachusetts remains a "may issue" state for handguns and a "shall
issue" state for long guns (rifles). The local police department in
your town makes the determination of what type of permit you can get.
But people started challenging the authority of the towns and their
police chiefs to be so restrictive in the types of permits issued.
Lawsuits were filed and won. Slowly, most of the towns and cities
began approving concealed carry permits but often with specific
restrictions.

I was fortunate. The officer who interviewed me knew me .... or *of*
me for reasons I won't get into, but I was granted an unrestricted
Class A permit which allows me to own and conceal carry any handgun
(on the approved MA list or grandfathered) and to own any rifle,
including the high capacity assault types that are so controversial.
The only type of firearm I can't legally own with the permit I have is
a machine gun or sawed off shotgun. I have no interest in the
assault rifles (although they are a blast to shoot).

I understand that unrestricted Class A permits are again starting to
get more difficult to get lately, probably due to all the media
attention on gun control. A couple of towns are trying to ban
firearms period. Areas in Boston are becoming particularly tough.

One thing my town had changed was the reason for applying for a
permit which was traditionally, "For all lawful purposes". They no
longer accept that as a reason. You must have specific reasons to
justify a concealed carry permit.


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Calif. only requires permits for CC. No permit needed to own most guns.
Have to have proof you owned, and registered your pre-ban AR type rifle.
Why are they called assault weapons? They look like a military rifle, but
are just a semi-automatic rifle. Just like lots of other hunting looking
rifles. No full or 3 round burst mode settings.