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In article ,
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:45:43 -0400, iBoaterer
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In article ,
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:16:32 -0400, iBoaterer
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In article ,
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The principle advances in the whole process are agricultural. We use
more chemicals, more water, bigger machines and genetically altered
corn.

Nope.

cite

No problem!

http://tinyurl.com/ctx4n29

This one is about feeding the sludge in the bottom of the still to
farm animals

http://www.nrel.gov/biomass/pdfs/40742.pdf

This one talks about how hard it is to get ethanol from biomass and
points out nobody is doing it in the US commercially.


http://tinyurl.com/d39dskp

This one only has one short reference to the distillation process
where they put some benzine (a carcinogen) in the mix to help extract
the last 5-6% of water but the bulk of it comes out on a process
similar to reverse osmosis.


http://tinyurl.com/cqa4o6t


This is another biomass article, saying it is "here" but "here" is not
the US unless you include these science fair projects by grad
students..

How do any of these address a better still?

Who said it did? YOU said that the advances "are agricultural", I said
no, and you asked for cite, you have it.

I got supreme examples of turd polishing by industry hacks and NONE of
them address distillation improvements.,


Again, who said anything about "distillation improvements"????? YOU said
that the ONLY improvements were in agricultural methods, and you were
wrong.


Those articles talking about feeding the sludge to animals sounds
agricultural to me. Two of the 3 were talking about the dream of
cellulose conversion, which they have not actually been able to do and
the last is just a puff piece from a lobbying organization and it is
still talking about better crop yields (agricultural) and biomass.

If this is such a great process, why does the government have to
subsidize every gallon by 60-70 cents?


Haven't been able to do????? Really?? Come on now, you used to be
reasonable. Oh, and probably the same reason why the government has to
subsidize the crops that YOU and everyone eats.