"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 4/28/13 12:33 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:05:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

If the laws are anything like those in MA, the person would have
to
either kill someone somehow or commit suicide before they would
be
considered a threat to others or to themselves. Had a series of
long,
frustrated conversations with a state psychologist about this
last
year.


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message

That's pretty close. And once the dangerously mentally ill are in
a
long-term facility, fund and staff shortages might get them
released
too
early. In private hospitals, you're pretty much dumped out as soon
as
your insurance is used up.

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On 4/27/2013 7:12 PM, Pro-Baby wrote:


His bottom was lower than most. Thank God you were there to help
him.


I still think Oxy/heroin hits harder, those guys are never really
off
the ****... just out of stock for the moment.

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I agree, although both booze and drugs can destroy lives. Dead is
dead. I have two friends with daughters in their early 20's who
are
hooked on heroin. Both started with oxycontin and switched to
heroin
because it's cheaper and more readily available. Both went
through
de-tox and rehab twice and relapsed. They are currently both in a
sober
house following the third attempt at rehab.

This is an area where I disagree with Harry in terms of some of his
comments regarding youth activities, including your situation. It's
important to support and encourage lawful activities that they may
have
interest in and to keep them within the "real world" of challenge,
victory and defeat. It may be sports, dancing, art, music or
whatever
but they need something to focus on outside of just schoolwork and
preparing for college or a job. The traditional formal education
part
is important also, but not at the expense of all other character
building activities. I think many young people turn to booze and
drugs
out of boredom during a period of time where they want to sow their
wild
oats or demonstrate their individuality.





Hmm. Where did you get the idea I opposed sports or other fun
activities
for kids? I'm not a big fan of activities in which kids can easily get
seriously injured, but there are plenty of sports in which that is not
a
big concern.

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Because I don't think you can be overly directive in terms of what
activities are good or bad for them. They are developing
individuality and might enjoy some things that you may not necessarily
"approve" of. Accidents happen in virtually any form of recreation
or hobby but for most they are far and few between. Heck, I damn
near electrocuted myself on several occasions as a youngster playing
around with old radios, amps and TV sets.
Built a homemade bicycle with an oversized rear sprocket that would do
about 40 mph, all in the days before helmets and riding gear. Used
to have to be towed by my friend's older brother in a car to get it
going, but once rolling the stupid thing would fly. I survived.

I think too much pressure and influence is put on academics too early
now-a-days. It's important of course, but it needs to be balanced
with other youthful interests and activities. Unfortunately it
comes from nationalized testing that starts in the second grade for
cripes sakes and it's not necessarily geared to benefit the students,
but rather the school systems and their funding.