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Default Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.

On 4/25/13 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:36:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They don't seem to understand the difference between tolerance and
"establishment"

If a government advanced one religion to the exclusion of all others,
that is clearly unconstitutional but if they allow the exercise of any
of them it is complying with the actual words on the page.



I don't see where "the government" is allowing or disallowing the
exercise of religion. What is not and should not be allowable is the
exercise of religion on the public's property, and the exercise of
religion includes manger scenes that allegedly depict the birth of the
Jewish fellow the Christians call Jesus.


Where does the 1st amendment say can't allow people to express their
faith on government property?
The congress is not making any law about it.
I have said before they can't favor one over another.
That was the basis for McLeary County
I can understand if they limited it to "free speech" zones that anyone
could use but that might actually be the show stopper if the
particular government did not want to allow other religions to display
their faith.



You're going way off into "tangent land." It's perfectly OK for, say, a
kid in a public school to say a prayer if he or she wants prior to
taking a test or whatever. It is NOT ok for the classroom teacher to
lead such a prayer.

An individual saying a prayer has nothing to do with any religious group
putting up a creche in the front yard of the public school, which should
not be allowed.

It's interesting to me that in this country, it is only christians for
the most part who seem most eager to push their religious beliefs onto
society as a whole through legislation, and who talk about America as a
"christian" nation. I wonder if it is because these sorts of christians
really have doubts about their beliefs and try to find security in
forcing others to believe as they do.