On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:32:15 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:




The Constitution does not exclude them.

But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those
with serious mental health
issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or
society. Alcoholics and drug
addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going
to provide lists of members.
And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member.



I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in
Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a
questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal
penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a
straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence,
whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence,
whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've
been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual
drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and
you might get arrested.

Anyone here a heavy drinker?

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Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post habitual use
of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but also
every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the one
you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled out. It
specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse.





I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so
violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling down gun
violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain violent
and gun laws will never do anything to stop it."


Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the left who oppose just about
....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept about it? It is a fact that there
are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with guns or not with guns. A majority
of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with the background checks. Many
of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by Maryland, are simply stupid. They'd
have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre.

However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have prevented it.


Salmonbait

Complete and total bull****. First, while someone with a knife might
kill someone, they're not going to be killing 20 kids and 6 adults in
about 10 minutes. Second, there was armed security at Columbine, and
it made no difference even though the guy engaged the shooters.