On 4/3/13 7:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 4/3/13 6:06 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"J Herring" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, Hank©
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I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.

He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

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John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do not
have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used much
in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few times
I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty and the
thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is safer that
way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the time it would
take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be a matter of a
second or two.




I've carried outside of the house with a round in the pipe and the
safety on. I've only done that a few times under special circumstances.
When I do carry, typically, I have a mag inserted but I haven't yet
racked the slide, so there's no need to use the safety. I have a belt
carry holster so when I do carry, I have to wear a jacket to keep the
firearm covered. It's a custom molded holster, and while it holds the
weapon snugly, the trigger guard is completely free of the holster. It's
not an expensive holster. I think it was about $75.

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Yup, your method is a very common one. I elect to also use the thumb
safety just for an extra measure. Makes me think about what I am doing.
For example, the S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" is made such that you cannot
rack the slide with the thumb safety on. So, to use it you must flip
the safety off, rack the slide and it's ready to fire. The Walther on
the other hand *can* be racked with the safety (or decocker) "on", but
you still have to flip the safety/decocker to "off" for the trigger to
fire the gun. It's really what you get used to doing.

I tried several belt holsters for both. I have a nice leather one for
the Walther but since I got the Bodyguard, it feels like a lead weight.
I have two for the Bodyguard. One is a belt type, but the one I like
the best is a simple De Santis pocket holster. The Bodyguard is so
small and light it can be comfortably carried in your pants pocket or an
inside pocket of your jacket.




I'm pretty sure I can't turn the thumb safety on on my CZ unless the
hammer is in the firing position but on my Ruger Mark III, I can flip
the safety on or off no matter what. I'll have to check that, though.