On 4/1/13 7:21 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...


You're not too bright. I told you *directly* I was not playing your
moronic game. Is that too complex and abstract for you?

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Isn't his persistent question about the same as repeatedly asking Scott
how his "blackmail" thing is going?


No. Snotty publicly accused me of perpetrating a blackmail against him,
and he repeated that allegation several times and even said there were
"others" here he informed and they agreed with him. It was personal. Of
course, he never offered his proof here.

I've offered Herring an answer, and it makes perfect sense. It isn't the
answer he wants, but it is an answer. There are other reasons why I
wouldn't own a semi-auto pistol without a real safety.

My semi-autos are not kept ready to fire unless I am ready to fire. That
would be Condition 0, where a bullet is in the chamber, the hammer is
cocked and the safety is off. You can easily achieve Condition 0 with a
so called "safe action" trigger, which is what Glocks and many other
semi-auto pistols have. There is no safety, so if the slide is racked,
the pistol is ready to fire. No thumb safety.

I also don't keep my pistols in Condition 1, aka "cocked and locked,"
with a bullet in the chamber, a cocked hammer, and the thumb safety on,
unless I am ready to shoot at the range. Then, all I have to do is turn
the thumb safety off. Before I do that, I know the gun will not
discharge, period.

You can't do that with a "safe action" trigger. If you have that sort of
pistol in Condition 1, and there is no safety, a pull on the trigger
will fire the weapon. On a pistol with no safety, there is no real
Condition 1. You're in Condition 0.

Pistols with a "safe action" trigger typically are handled in Condition
3, in which the chamber is empty, the hammer or firing pin is down, but
there is a charged magazine in the weapon. That's fairly safe, but you
have to rack the slide to get a round into the chamber.

I have seen two demonstrations at big-time firing ranges where the range
safety officer has shown how a Glock can be fired without a finger on
the trigger. A "Sharpie" marking pen can fit in the trigger guard, and
press the "safe action" blade in the middle of the trigger and if more
pressure is exerted the back part of the "safe action" blade will clear,
and the trigger will let the gun fire.

Thus, semi-autos without safeties, like the Glocks, are inherently less
safe than weapons with a thumb safety.

Here's an interesting web page that shows an accidental discharge on a
semi-auto with no thumb safety:

http://tinyurl.com/brpzttc


It's not difficult to find these articles.