On 3/31/13 11:53 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 3/31/13 11:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...



Here's a little CZ concealed carry pistol with several safety features,
including an actual safety:

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/

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I've heard that CZ may be trying to get some of their handguns on the MA
compliant list, but as of last month no CZ models are listed:

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster03-2013.pdf




Well, it sure isn't for lack of a safety, since all the Glock models
seem to be compliant. In Europe, Glock supplies pistols to police
departments *with* safeties, if the department wants them. But not here.
There are some aftermarket safeties available for Glock pistols.

I was shooting a high-priced SIG X-5 when at a match, I happened to swap
pistols for a few mags with a guy shooting a much less expensive CZ. I
was impressed with how much tighter the CZ slide locked up with its
frame, and the "innards" on the CZ were at least as finely machined as
those on the SIG. The SIG was "done up" in buff stainless steel, and
that usually produces a good-looking firearm. But the quality of both
pistols was pretty much a push. And, for me, the CZ outshot my SIG.
That's when I decided to sell the SIG and get a CZ.

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I think some Glocks have been recently added after Glock added another
safety feature of some type.
But, just because the gun is on the list in the link I provided, doesn't
necessarily mean you can buy one.
That's what is so screwed up here.

There is a MA agency (forget what it's called) that tests guns
submitted by the manufacturer for certification of being MA compliant.
They test for safety, drop tests, etc. The manufacturer must submit
something like five guns of each model for testing.

But the MA Attorney General's office also has a say in what is "MA
compliant" and it's a very subjective determination. In some cases a
particular Ruger model was rejected because they didn't like where the
serial number was put. In other cases, a stainless version of a gun
model was rejected but the blued version was ok. As a result, many
manufacturers have basically told MA to "KMA" and don't bother even
trying to market their guns here.

In order for a dealer to legally sell post-grandfathered guns, the model
must be approved by both the testing agency and the AG's office.
Politics, as usual, at play.




Well, that all sounds like stupidity in action...