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Default Brewing economic scandal

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back
in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the
teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You
were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters.
And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got
into the system without an apprenticeship.

You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent
the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to
do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field,
among many other things.

I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of
serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields.


On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the
public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s).
Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit.

We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was
actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before
he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school
(IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career
teachers so they brought real life experience to the class.
The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab
in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor.



Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history
and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from
schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now
University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I
graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in
parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of
unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale
trial a couple of years later didn't help, either.

I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in
many areas, though the crime rate is still too high.


Now we know why you're so perfect...all those Ph.D.'s in your high school.

Wow.


Salmonbait

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