On 3/22/13 10:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.
I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.
Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.
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No, distain for some of the Schooling rules. Talking with the Dean of
Engineering at Santa Clara Univ. during the 90's she said if you want
to teach in the university, get a PhD. If you want to be an engineer
get a masters. Education these days uses college to limit entrance, to
keep prices up. Why does a 3rd grade teacher need a masters plus a year
of basically unpaid student teaching? A whole generation of people were
taught by people with a bachelors degree, and that generation seemed to
do better than what we have now. Sent man to the moon, and built a
great infrastructure in the USA.
I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back
in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the
teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You
were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters.
And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got
into the system without an apprenticeship.
You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent
the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to
do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field,
among many other things.
I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of
serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields.