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Urin Asshole

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:08:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/14/2013 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:05:35 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:48:19 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:39:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:02:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

The "medicare underpayments" are still OVER what the actual costs are,
and since medicare CANT negotiate, those costs can't be lower. That
would be a good first fix.

Maybe you are one of those Venus Project people who think we should do
away with money but as long as we have money, you need to pay more
than "cost" just to keep the wheels of commerce turning.
"Cost" for the MRI, still does not pay for keeping the building
running. At a certain point you are cutting the pay and benefits for
the workers who do that.
I agree they over use tests but as long as we have lawyers picking
apart every bad outcome, doctors are going to test everything they
think might insulate them from liability.

So.... You are okay with your insurance being charged $30.00 for a
Tylenol? $25.00 for a blanket which is used and washed to be re-used
over and over and can be bought online for $5.00? You do realize these
VERY excessive costs trickle down to the consumer, right?

I already said, most of that $30 is bureaucratic red tape to avoid
liability.

Just cause you said it doesn't make it a fact. It's bull****. Read the
article.

That blanket is thrown away. I bought one last month and they told me
I could take it home if I wanted.
I agree the prices are inflated. Brill points out several reasons why.

Yet, you just said it was "bureaucratic". So, bull****.

I know you hate it when I actually have knowledge but my first wife
was a hospital administrator.

I have already said the Charge Master should be a public record so
people will know what the prices are. They should also publish what
the various negotiated or Medicare capped prices are.

And I said it should be outlawed. What the **** is it for? It's a
funny number designed to rip people off.

It is simply the full retail price they can charge and they make that
a ridiculously high number, like that card on a hotel door. Only a
moron actually pays that much

There is nothing in this boondoggle that a little sunshine would not
help. The main problem is that the customer is usually totally
ignorant of what the price is that they pay. Most people never get
much farther than "This is not a Bill" on that explanation of benefits
statement.

No that's not the main problem. The main problem is that the customer
has little choice when they show up in the emergency room. You're
going to shop around for a cardiologist while you're have a heart
attack????

If we actually had to pay these bills, it would have never got this
bad in the first place.

The published price and the insurer cost are quite different. If you buy
goods and services through the hospital they are usually several
multiples of insurer cost.

There are outfits that will arbitrate on your behalf to settle your
hospital bill.

They don't "settle" your bill, except that they can usually negotiate
on your behalf to get some sort of discount on the made up price of
chargemaster. You're still getting ripped off big time.