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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:05:30 -0500, Boating All Out
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I said 10% and it was actually lower than that. You are right, it is
not a negotiation, they just say what they pay and the provider has
the choice, take it or leave it. A lot of providers are "leaving it"
and not taking Medicare patients.

I laugh when I hear this. They might as well close shop. It's called
"Pricing yourself out of the market." Or maybe "My business would be
profitable if I had any ****ing customers."

We are heading toward a two tier system like they have in UK
There are already doctors who are moving into concierge medicine
where they only court rich customers who pay a premium for better
service.
Everyone else may end up standing in line for a 3d world doctor with
English as a second language

Most of the doctors at DeWitt Army Hospital at Fort Belvior were
contract doctors and they were better than the Army docs.

I've seen estimates that 70% of all health costs are charged for elderly
care. Jesus, just look around the provider's waiting room.
Then account for the multiple drugs and procedures the old farts are
getting compared the the young.
Half of all health care money to providers already comes from
government. Health care has been for years the biggest socialist
"business" going, after defense.
It's like Northrop Grumman refusing any more defense contracts.
Difference is Northrop Grumman can't be easily replaced by a hungrier
health care provider.
It's really funny hearing this argument.
Besides that, +50% of ALL Medicare cost is spent to keep what might be
called "vegetables" alive for their last 2 months of life.
I don't take a stand end-of-life care, except for myself.
But the solutions to all of this are pretty simple. Cut costs, or cut
services, or pay up.

Hungrier providers? Like WalMart?

I do tend to agree that we spend too much money on people in the last
6 months of life but when you ask the families, they want that last 6
months with grandma and grandma usually wants it too.
I am a little frustrated by the number of 6 month old artificial hips
we bury.

Most old people never recovery from a broken hip regardless as to
whether it was replaced or not. Too bad we can't just take them out back
and leave them there.

As soon as you bring this up you start hearing about death panels.