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On 1/12/2013 11:03 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:47:32 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:43 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:29:23 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came your bull****, ESAD?

Are you channeling iLoogy?


Are you unable to prove your bull****?

Salmonbait



There's a line or two in the piece that discusses forced conversions
done by missionaries.


The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with
arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus,
particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all
Hindus.[49] In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed
Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to
force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to
Christianity.[50] A Few Christian evangelists in India have been accused
forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been jailed for
forcefully converting.[51][52] Archbishop Moras, refuting these
allegation of forced conversions and the charges of conversions against
the Christian missionaries, said "We do not believe in forced
conversions" "It is easy to charge people with wrong allegations but
difficult to stop evil powers that are working against Christians".[53]


There has been plenty written about forced conversions perpetrated by
christians on people of different faiths. Easy enough for even a moron
like you to find, eh?

If you don't want to go back to the time of the Romans, you can always
check out the Inquisition.





What does the Inquisition have to do with the lie you and kevin and the
rest are telling about "having it shoved down their throats"....??

A line or two of 'allegations' does not support your statement, oh wise ESAD!

Salmonbait

"Christians don?t want to impose their values, but they do recognize
that, in every society, someone?s values must reign supreme. The
question is whose values will predominate? There is no such thing as a
neutral value system. Therefore, Christians work to advance their values
in the sincere belief that, in a world of competing convictions,
Christian values best promote the general welfare and preserve the
domestic tranquility."

From this Christian website:

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christia...se-values.html

http://raw-christianity.com/2012/01/...-my-religious-
values-down-your-throat/