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On 1/1/2013 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:37:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:

Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a
rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple years of
night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the schools
I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical
ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer has.

Why do we think there is something wonderful about the training cops
have?

Because a lot of their training is directed at exactly the type of
incursion we are talking about here...

He flat out ignored all you said about human interaction.
To a gun nut it's all about guns. The typical gun nut owns many more
guns than a cop, and unlike a cop, sees pulling a gun as first option.

Remember last summer the cops in New York shot 11 innocent bystanders,
taking down one suspect. They weren't even rookies.

It called "the fog of war"... it was terrible, but it happened. Hey, I
hear a plane crashed once, maybe we just shouldn't fly either...

The cops didn't take "down one suspect."
They killed a murdering gun nut pointing a .45 at them.
"Detectives searching Johnson's apartment found books on training and
fighting skills such as "Techniques and Equipment of the Deadly Marksmen
Snipers" and "Attack Proof - the Ultimate Guide to Personal
Protection," the source said."
Besides that, he legally purchased the gun - wait for it - in Florida.
Nine civilians were injured, not eleven. All but 3 grazed by bullet or
concrete pottery fragments. Patched and released. The other 3 were
hospitalized with injuries said to be "not serious."
"They weren't even rookies." No, they were 15 year veterans.
And had never fired a shot in the line of duty.
A gun nut probably thinks cops should "go looking" for REAL combat
situations. You know - practice.
Fired 16 rounds - NYPD uses hollow points - and hit with 10.
Not good enough for the gun nut though. A gun nut would know how to
handle another gun nut better.
Riiiiight.

Do you think a bunch of untrained civilians would do any better? In
fact, can you give me one identifiable group that you think would be
better suited for such duty?

Pretty sure gfretwell would say AGNA - American Gun Nut Association.
That's their answer to gun violence - more guns.
Kudos to you Scotty, for injecting some sense into this conversation.
I don't usually think about the gun nut element of people.
Don't run in that crowd.
Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.