On 12/27/12 1:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:51:00 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 12:41 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:43:27 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 9:27 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/27/2012 9:06 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/27/2012 7:58 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/27/2012 7:53 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:14:53 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/26/2012 5:57 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:22:47 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:05:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

They don't have anything like this is North Carolina

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...big%20tree.jpg



or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/Ju...kes%20peak.jpg

or this

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/Devils%20tower.jpg

Duh! So, what's your point? Are you saying that you can't hike and
tent
camp in those areas???


I am saying I was not willing to drive to those places and
trying to
pack your camping supplies on an airplane is not tenable.

At that point you are left with camping where you are willing to
drive.
My neighbor was an RV "camper" . He always had a six figure RV in
his
driveway or in a paid parking lot facility (most of the time).
He always ended up losing about $50,000-100,000 when he traded
them.
They were a maintenance black hole, got about 4-5 MPG on the road
towing another car. The campgrounds were not cheap and he still
had to
buy food in or out.

I can't see the six-figure motorhome. At least I've got something to
drive when the trailer's hooked
up, and I don't have to tow a toad.

We sat down and compared his cost to me and my wife, flying 1st
class,
staying in suites in nice hotels, renting an SUV and cooking in
or eating out.
We came away cheaper and we got a lot more actual vacation out of
our
2 or 3 weeks (unless driving a bus is your idea of fun).

Absolutely, especially if his was a diesel. There is some time lost
driving, but much of this
country is nice to drive through. Kansas does get boring, along with
Nebraska, Oklahome, most of
Texas and South Dakota. But, there are sights to see in every state,
if one will slow down and take
a peek. My neighbor had a software program that calculated costs,
given various assumptions, and
camping often won out.,

Unless you actually go camping 4 or 5 times a year, locally, the
hotel
is always going to be cheaper once you actually add up all of your
expenses..

We've been averaging about twice a month since we got the first
trailer a few years back. One of
the nice things about an RV is that you sleep without other peoples'
bed bugs!


Well, after all this talk I guess we can morph it a bit... our ideal
camper would be a four door pickup truck, with a slide on. For day
races, we could throw the bikes in the back of the truck, for
weekend/roadtrips, we would slide the camper on and tow the bikes
behind
in the trailer, during the week we have a pickup truck for around
town...

What I really need is a commode and a shower, I don't mind cooking
outside. I don't want to sleep with the bikes, that's why I don't
want a
long trailer with two sections, but having a girl racer, I do need
two
separate sleeping areas.

If I could I would have one of those nice ones that squat down for
travel

Here ya go!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf

Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This
is what's called a 'Toy Hauler'
fifth wheel.


Sure, that's what Jessi goes racin' in when we roll out with the team.
That's what we call a "FunMover" and it's the reason I said "I don't
sleep with bikes". I want my bikes in a trailer. Second, I don't know
about you but 1200 dollars gas for one weekend from Worcester Mass to
Unadilla NY and back is not gonna' cut it for me and Jess on off
weekends... Nice, but naaaa, not for a us.

Howjuh come up with $1200

Need to confirm, I think it might have been 600... I will get back later
after I talk to him. IIRC, with the rig he gets about 4 miles to the
gallon or something crazy like that. Again, this is how I remember it,
but I will let you all know after I talk to him again. The rig however
is about 105 feet to park, and carries up to ten bikes.. oh, and I
forgot the golf cart


Yeah, it was 600 for the trip out and back, just for the hauler and
trailer. Race gas is something completely different, that goes anywhere
from 10-75 dollars a gallon depending on what you run. I only have
access to the 10-30 dollar price range.



$75 a gallon for gasoline? Hell, you can buy a decent bottle of wine for
$10.

I suppose your 'Ducati' runs on wine?

40+ mpg on pump gasoline. Three bucks and change a gallon. About $16 for
a fill up.

I'm trying hard not to laugh.


Don't look in the mirror, john the racist.