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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:50:18 PM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote:
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:43:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
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"Justwait" made a comment that caused me to think about this. I
think his definitions of guns could be developed into a reasonably
simple category system of what is available for purchase and ownership
by private citizens and what is reserved for military and police use.

For private citizens:

Firearms (handguns and rifles/shotguns) specifically designed for
target practice and competition. No more than 7-10 round capacity.
Firearms (rifles and shotguns) designed specifically for hunting.
No more than 5-10 rounds.
Firearms designed for personal/home defense. Includes handguns with
no more than 7-10 round capacity. Concealed carry permits allowed
based on background check.
Non-functioning firearms as collectibles/display pieces. These can
include military type weapons but must be permanently disabled.


For Law Enforcement and Military:

Firearms and weapons designed for both defensive and offensive use.
Automatic and semi-automatic with unlimited round capacity.

The days of private citizens being concerned about arming to the teeth
to protect themselves from their own government are long over.
That interpretation of the 2nd Ammendent is obsolete. Private
citizens don't need high capacity, offensive weapons.


Problem is... ANY firearm can be used both offensively and defensively. Take an M15 and a .45 ACP. Generally, the first fits the offensive weapon category, the second the home defensive one. But in the right situation, the M16 would be the better defense, and the ACP the better offense.

In the end, it's the person pulling the trigger. It always comes down to that.


It's the person pulling the trigger? Exactly! That's why we need to keep
guns out of the hands of lunatics and criminals.

8. More guns tend to mean more homicide.
The Harvard Injury Control Research Center assessed the literature on
guns and homicide and found that there?s substantial evidence that
indicates more guns means more murders. This holds true whether you?re
looking at different countries or different states. Citations here.
9. States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-
related violence.
Last year, economist Richard Florida dove deep into the correlations
between gun deaths and other kinds of social indicators. Some of what he
found was, perhaps, unexpected: Higher populations, more stress, more
immigrants, and more mental illness were not correlated with more deaths
from gun violence. But one thing he found was, perhaps, perfectly
predictable: States with tighter gun control laws appear to have fewer
gun-related deaths. The disclaimer here is that correlation is not
causation. But correlations can be suggestive: