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ESAD

On 12/18/12 1:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:36:46 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/18/12 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:47:07 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Perhaps the police have found or will find some clues that shine light
on the shooter's mental state. Maybe not. The problem with guessing on
these cases where the shooter is dead and there is a lack of concrete
evidence is that it usually points in the wrong direction. I've read and
heard some reports that "violent video games" may have been involved.
Well, video games don't cause schizophrenia.

We have a culture of violence. We were started in a revolution where
we threw out all of the rules of "civilized warfare", our most bloody
war was amongst ourselves and the rest of the world uses us as their
enforcer/hit man.
You really just have to look to the media to see the model for these
shootings. What passes for news and entertainment (which is only
separated by a blurry line) all you see is mass killing of one kind or
another. The public seems to be drawn to it and the media outlets are
more than happy to oblige.
The biggest news story last year was the cold blooded murder of Osama
Bin Laden. I agree he needed killing but it was still a "hit" worthy
of Al Capone or Pablo Escobar.

We love bomb camera and drone strike videos even when a bunch of kids
are "collateral damage".
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It is not shocking that a disturbed individual thinks the best way to
be somebody is to kill a lot of people. The more shocking the victims,
the bigger splash you get.

Once again, you are just extending the psychobabble. What evidence do
you have that the Connecticut shooter wanted to "be somebody"?

Isn't every debate driven by psychobabble?

There is no shortage of people who make penis references to guns, fast
boats, fast cars or just about anything else they are opposed to?
Isn't that psychobabble?

It is clear there was something wrong with these people's thinking
processes. I am sure we will be hearing a lot more psychobabble as
this story goes on.
There has to be something that separates a responsible gun owner like
you from this waste of oxygen.

I think it is a little different when lay people try to psychoanalyze
someone who has committed a horrific act such as the one in Newtown. The
few professional psychotherapists I have seen interviewed on TV are
rightly reluctant to play that game in the absence of a face to face
evaluation and, of course, that isn't going to happen. Some of the
"symptoms" and behaviors attributed to the shooter suggest
schizophrenia. If that is the case, it manifests itself in many
different ways, and it is silly to think in the absence of evidence the
shooter did what he did for "fame," or to be somebody, or even to "get
even." We may never know what was on his mind. According to my wife, it
is "very interesting" that he killed his mother. Matricide is not
common, even among the severely mentally ill. Particide is a bit more
common, especially where the father has sexually abused his child.