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The unions leach off the capitalists. Why should they change?

BTW: What is union membership down to, about 13% of the total
US
workforce? Take
away the teachers union and the government workers and you are
left
with
unions
representing a small percentage of the total US workforce.
The
trend
for
union
membership has been on a downward slide as most workers
realize
they
can
earn better
pay and better benefits without having to pay thousands each
year
to
union
fatcats.

I was just chatting with a fellow today - he said that the union
organizers
were snooping around the place he works (a printed circuit board
house)
and
the management suddenly felt the need to raise his pay 3 bucks
an
hour.
Would they have done this without the union?

Perhaps the union is just a tool in the hand of the worker. They
pull it
out
and club companies that loose touch with reality. Like any tool,
it
*can* be
miss-used. We all know that there are bunches of people that
want to
get
rid
of certain tools just because they can be mis-used. Examples
include
firearms, jet skis, private aircraft, encryption software, file
sharing
software. Unions are something like that.

I used to live Waterloo Iowa. The only big employers are IBP and
John
Deere.
Deere has done some pretty scummy things to the town over the
years.
I
can
tell you that the union is about the only force keeping John
Deere
in
line.
There *are* still situations in the USA were the union is
useful.

Please note that compensation and mission are separate issues.
Just
like
government leadership jobs, I would like to see union leadership
get
the
median wage of the workers. That might address the "fatcat"
issue.
Or
not.
It would still go a long ways towards addressing issues of
fairness.

Mark Browne



Why does an average quality family car like a Chevy Impala cost
close
to
$20k today?

Because the price has risen with inflation.
Have you checked out the price of a loaf of bread or a gallon of
milk
lately?
Next question.

Mark Browne
P.S. I suspect that Jim secretly longs for the good old days of
slave
labor - think how cheap his car would be then!




Yep, I am sure most of you highly trained prison guard workers yearn
for
those good old
days. You had more people you could keep in line and abuse.

How many inmates did you beat up, sexually abuse and extort today
Mark?

Jim,

You are confused again. It is the *other* Mark (Pilcher) that is the
prison
guard. I am the electronic engineer one. But if makes you feel better to
insult engineers, have at it.

BTW - what is it you do again?

Mark Browne




Ahh, so you are a union worker also, perhaps with the auto industry. That
explains
everything.

Jim,
Once again, you are confused. Electronic engineers have never successfully
been able to organize an effective union in most industries. I have never
worked under a union contract. Try again.

Mark Browne




OK, so I was wrong. But you did admit that you previously ran a company into the
ground. You obviously lack the basic knowledge on what it takes to run a successful
business.