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Default Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators

On 8/10/2012 1:55 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:19:20 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/10/2012 12:13 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:28:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/10/2012 10:12 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 8/9/2012 1:07 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 8/9/12 11:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:07:24 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/9/12 9:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:08:04 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

It's a bit annoying that the propane dealers around here don't
post
their prices on their web sites. I don't mind paying the local
"convenience" street price for filling up a small tank for an
outdoor
grill, but I'd sure like to know what the 20 or so "local"
delivery
suppliers are charging per gallon to fill our 500-gallon tank
without
having to call each one of them.

There should be a "Propane Delivery Price" app!

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Why not create a web site similar to what cruisers have been
doing
with diesel fuel prices?

https://www.waterwayguide.com/fuel-pricing?area=cbdb


That would be an interesting thing to do, but then you'd have to
recruit
a huge number of "reporters," and a homeowner buying a tankful of
propane usually does not happen more than two or three times a
year. As
an example, we have a gas furnace, hot water heater, rangetop,
fireplace, generator, et cetera, and we've never used more
than 350
gallons of propane in a calendar year. Typically, the truck comes
by for
a partial fill-up in October and then another partial fill-up in
March
so that on those two dates, we actually have about 400 gallons of
LP in
the tank. Obviously, usage varies according to appliances and
geography/weather. Plus, propane prices vary widely from
dealer to
dealer in the same market, depending upon when they bought their
supplies and other factors.

I was intrigued by this because a neighbor bought a near tankful
of gas
for about 25 cent less a gallon than I paid. His supplier was
helpful on
the phone and told me the wide variance is common among all
dealers
during the year, that at the next fill-up, his price could be
higher
than my dealer's, and that prices typically changed weekly.

So, what is needed is not reportage of what Joe paid last week in
nearby
Dunkirk, MD, for example, but what XYZ Propane is charging for
delivered
LP *today* and what his 10 nearby competitors are charging
*today*, so a
call can be made and a delivery order placed for the
lowest-priced
supplier at a given moment.

I'm going to contact my local state official to see if there
is any
interest in requiring propane dealers to post their delivered
prices
daily on their websites. They all seem to have decent
websites. That
way, it would be easy to check individually or even write a
spider that
would gather the prices on a webpage as you described.

Before you go thru a rigmarole - the company that owns the tank is
the only company that can fill
it. Of course, if you personally own the tank and it meets the
requirements of the other companies,
you can deal with anyone. Otherwise, if you decide to switch
companies, be prepared to switch tanks.
My daughter is going thru this right now. She'll probably have two
tanks at her house while waiting
for the current tank to empty.

When you stick to decent posts, you shouldn't deserve to be
shunned.


1. You are correct in stating that the company that owns the tank
is the
only company that can fill it, contractually.

2. I bought my tank from the company that owned it.

The approximate cost of a new *buried* 500-gallon tank these
days is
$2000 to $2500, I was told by two suppliers. It was about $500 to
$1000
less when we bought this house. An above ground tank is much less
expensive.

I bought our tank for under $500. The LP gas company had been
depreciating it for about 9 years, and company's cost of removing
it so
I could replace it with a new tank was more than the company
wanted to
pay. So the company made me an offer I could hardly refuse. I
did
this to save the 30 cents a gallon premium I was paying to fill the
"rented" tank, and to be able to shop around for the best LP gas
price
when the tank needs a refill.

These buried tanks supposedly have a "life" of 25 to 30 years if
anodes
were installed. They were on mine. I'll worry about the tank's
end of
life at that time only if I'm not buried.

Not only is a buried tank more costly it's also less safe. An above
ground tank is easy to visually see any potential spots that are
severely rusted, etc. which may rupture and leak.

Propane is heavier than air. Any leak will just sink further into the
ground.

No it won't. Ever hear of the word "density"?



It's just amazing how you two can drool and drool and drool on a thread
and add absolutely nothing useful. Your moron buddy Meyer offers up a
site that he claims has propane prices on line and, of course, it
doesn't, and you're spitting up "safety tips" that are of no interest.

Yet another thread on rec.boats trashed by the morons.

Please refer us to ANY thread you have posted to in the past year in
which you added value.

T'would be easier for him to refer us to any thread he has not trashed.



Pretty funny **** coming from a pair of mooks who fling their trash
everywhere here and especially from the meyer****, whose hope beyond
hope is that some day I might deign to respond to him directly.

What a dickhead.


Shame on you. You know damn good and well you're just sitting there, wishin', and hopin', an'
thinkin', and prayin' that the boy would respond to you.

Well, as he responds to every post I make, whether or not it's to him, I can say his responses are
not what he thinks them to be.

They remain WATOABH!

Catchy phrase. They should write a song. ;-)